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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The sad part is, that allowing Elon to export "Full Self Driving" or whatever other technology to China won't even help Tesla that much, and will even harm the company in the long term:

The Chinese will just copy/steal the technology, because all foreign investment is through joint ventures with local corporations, and give it to their domestic manufacturers, like they did and continue to do with all other offshored production that winds up in their hands.

As a recent spate of articles about GM, Honda and Nissan, tells us, the Chinese domestic manufacturers now own 60% market share.

Tesla's market share in China has dropped in nearly half over the last 3 months from 9/24 - 12/24, from 6.43% to 3.39%, and that was already down from 9% in 2023.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

FSD isn't the leader in the market anyways and faces significant problems right now because they abandoned radar to focus on cameras.

So China likely already has that tech...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No, you don't understand. FSD can't be copied because it'll be entirely server side, and hosted in the USA!

Hope your ping times don't spike while making a left turn in a busy intersection.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

No doubt running on starlink.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

Have never heard that and doubt it is true.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Bit off topic maybe but isn't Teslas self-driving setup the worst of all implementations? I'm no expert but i thought the cars only used cameras and other companies were closer to full autonomy (though none have achieved it)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

FSD is less reliable compared to say Google's Waymo. GM's Cruise gave up on autonomous driving

China's dubious state media, says their autonomous robotaxis are quite safe, and they're rolling out fleets of them in major cities already

But I'm sure that bits and bobs in Tesla's FSD systems have some value to someone.