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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (10 children)

What? Why? Where did I say that? What the fuck are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

What? Why? Where did I say that? What the fuck are you talking about?

I asked how this conflict was different and you started talking about a completely different topic like stategic bombing. But Israel isn't using strategic bombing, they're using artillery and missiles. Just like how the allies did against Berlin and other German cities when fighting the Germans. So how is this different?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

The difference is that Israel has been colonising the west bank for over 70 years. They are the aggressors. They are more analogous to the Nazis in WWII for that reason anyway.

And yes, just like there were bad actors on the allied side in WWII, Hamas is also a bad actor.

This isn't... COMPLICATED.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel pulled out of Palestine in 2005 and Palestine elected their own government, at that point they're an independent nation.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh good, so IDF snipers shooting Palestinian children in 2019 couldn't be happening: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2019-07-21/ty-article/.premium/the-protest-dispersed-then-an-israeli-sniper-shot-a-9-year-old-boy-in-the-head/0000017f-e3ff-d9aa-afff-fbffde890000

I'm sure this was necessary to get to the extremely small Hamas bunker that was surgically implanted in his skull, because those bastards were using him as a human shield.

Similar story much more recently: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-65812442

That kid was two years old. Must've been a really small bunker.

Seems like a really common tactic, apparently the rates of Palestinian children being shot by the IDF was increasing before this latest situation started: https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/28/west-bank-spike-israeli-killings-palestinian-children

Yup, good thing Israel left and this couldn't possibly be happening.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I read the BBC article on the recent shooting, you're right, it's tragic and wrong. Two gunmen shot up a settlement and then started exchanging fire with an IDF unit and the child was shot in the crossfire. This is awful, but has nothing to do with Palestine being an independent nation since this happened in the west bank, not the Gaza strip, which as I understand it, are different.

Also, this article (which is the only one I can access) seems to be posted in bad faith, the whole tragic situation started by a bunch of people opening fire on random Israeli citizens. But there's no mention of this at all when you're decrying Israeli violence. And the same for your talk about "Strategic Bombing", that no one is doing, or the political situation in the west bank (which is different from the Gaza strip).

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

Wow, incredible that the IDF just happens to accidentally shoot dozens of Palestinian children every year. Tragic. Surely there can be no assignment of blame here.

And I don't bother explaining what's wrong with Hamas because this thread isn't full of Hamas apologists, it's full of Israel apologists.

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