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Me and my girlfriend are attempting a keto-style diet, but I am a terrible chef and don't have much energy to cook generally. Previously I'd mostly eat soups and stews since I could make a huge pot, freeze some of the extra and eat it with rice, but most of the recipies I know aren't keto friendly (or at least the one suitable for a full meal). It also doesn't help that I'm a pretty terrible cook and my girlfriend is used to well-seasoned African cuisine.

I'm hoping to find some keto or keto-adjacent meals that can be prepared in bulk easily, and ideally (but not necessarily), frozen.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I'm sorry for offering up the wrong kind of advice, but I would really urge you to reconsider keto. Its horrible for you. I've lost a lot of weight successfully and many things have worked but keto isn't safe.

I'm not saying its life threatening or you won't achieve your health goals. But keto is just plain bad.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Hmm...

The ketogenic diet is not considered a benign, holistic, or all-natural treatment. As with any serious medical therapy, it may result in complications, although these are generally less severe and less frequent than with anticonvulsant medication or surgery. [...] Supplements are necessary to counter the dietary deficiency of many micronutrients. [...] Like many anticonvulsant drugs, the ketogenic diet has an adverse effect on bone health. [...] In adolescents and adults, common side effects reported include weight loss, constipation, dyslipidemia, and in women, dysmenorrhea.

Sounds like you're right, this diet is something that should be done for specific medical reasons, with professional guidance and with specific goals in mind:

The ketogenic diet is a high-fat, adequate-protein, low-carbohydrate dietary therapy that in conventional medicine is used mainly to treat hard-to-control (refractory) epilepsy in children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yes and since op didn't specify any medical condition I didn't think it was a wise idea. Idk why my comment is quite so controversial.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have no idea - counting calories is the safest diet by far and if you're going to undertake a diet that specifically shifts your metabolism you should be aware of the potential health effects. It'd be really nice if we could snap our fingers and lose 150 lbs over a weekend but fast diets put immense stress on our system.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

You're right, but didn't offer any sources. So it came off more like cluttering up OPs thread with opinion where they're asking for specific help.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

My doctor said something similar.

But after years of me being on keto, losing 167lbs, having an "absolutely fantastic health record" and the "healthiest bloodwork" he's ever seen (his words), plus significant improvement in mood, memory, and mobility, and a significant reduction/elimination of pain and inflammation, he changed his mind.

He even said that most of the content he had heard or read when saying it was "a bad diet" all those years ago was "completely biased" and "worded very slyly" (also his words). After revisiting those sources, he realized they "weren't actually describing real keto, just people eating a ton of fat" (which is not what keto is), "and crying about how bad fat is" (again, his words... which made me LOL). Also, mega bonus points for him - he actually checked into the sources and found that most of them were funded by the sugar industry.

It takes nothing to realize you're wrong; for some people, it takes a lot to admit it. He had no problem doing so, and even recommends the diet to other patients now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Some nits to pick:

Ketosis is a metabolic state where the body burns fat for fuel (lots of handwaving, but more or less)

ANY diet where weight is lost MUST have states of ketosis to metabolize fat (by definition). This includes the old classic 'eat less, move more', 'count calories CICO', 'low fat diet' etc.

A ketogenic diet, keto for short as people use it, is a diet that keeps people in the metabolic state of ketosis for extended periods of time. There are food groups that do not introduce glycemic load (fat and protein), and therefore keep the metabolic state of ketosis.

I must respectfully disagree with the statement that keto isn't safe - if that statement were true, then losing any weight ever, would not be safe - including sleeping (you run out of glucose and burn fat while you sleep.... break-fast is called that for a reason). The flip side of the 'keto isn't safe' statement is the implicit statement that carbohydrates are a essential macronutrient - which is an difficult position to defend.

If we modify the statement to be prolonged periods of ketosis are not healthy, then we need to answer how long, and what levels of carbohydrates are essential. We would also need to account for the metabolic success of cultures that do not consume carbohydrates (historic Inuit for example - who lived in cold regions where no grains grow).

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Keto seems less dangerous than the old Atkins diet. I had a coworker who rapidly shed about 30 lbs on Atkins and then had a stroke - he was 32.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I used to have a medical manual called Anecdotal Medicine. You'd flip to whatever opinion you wanted to have and there'd be a story right there to back it up! Very handy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

That's cool - if you prefer impersonal articles or papers to anecdotes here's one of each for you:

https://www.medicaldaily.com/atkins-diet-raises-heart-attack-and-stroke-risk-28-percent-experts-urge-women-not-banish-carbs

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6074441/

To me that's a lot less meaningful than watching a healthy coworker suffer a stroke out of the blue - but to each their own.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/skeptical-doctors

For example, a 2013 review of 17 studies claimed there was a higher risk of death for those who ate less carbohydrate.

....

Generally speaking, the lowest intake of carbohydrate in these studies averaged around 40% of calories.For a 2,000 calorie diet, 40% is 200 grams of carbs. While that is less than the standard American diet containing anywhere from 250-400 grams of carbs, it is far more than the 20 to 50 grams of daily carbs in low-carb and ketogenic diets used as interventions for obesity and chronic disease.

Diet doctor is a excellent resource, and they cite sources (hover over the numbers)

Bonus reading: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/science