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[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

One is based on something you can't control.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

so if your born in a rich family. is that in your control?

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

No, but at the same time, wealth doesn't need to be made out by someone as being a matter of class, just a manifestation of what you've been able to give/receive in society.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

I know a guy earning six figures that considers himself working class because "I work", we all know he's comfortably middle upper.

I don't judge him based upon his wealth but that doesn't mean class isn't a thing.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So would it be fair to say if someone was a higher status than you, there should be no ill will against them? only the select few who exploit those below them?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Is it fair to hate slavers? Or is it only fair if they are actively enslaving people? /s

At this point, it's obvious you're a bad faith actor here (and an incompetent one at that), but on the miniscule chance you aren't:

It is as impossible to be a good person, and be a slaver as it is to be a billionaire and a good person.

Both of those require active exploitation of people. You're just used to framing the exploitation in terms that don't make the exploitation clear for billionaires.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

whats the difference between a slave and you?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't exploit people to live.

That's the point.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

so people who are a class higher than you exploit you? is that how the system works?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

It's always fair to say people should only be judged by their character.