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And the reason is Tesla's are programmed to dump "autopilot" when a crash is inevitable so it's on the stats as user error.
Like 2 seconds before a crash it switches off and just lets the crash happen instead of continuing to apply brakes.
Likely one of the reasons Tesla crashes seem to be worse.
They "go limp" into a crash...
if everyone dies, nobody will sue you?
When the autopilot gets automatically disengaged, it should be treated as the autopilot software still being in control and just not doing anything.
Hence the rule musk want trump to scrap...
Wow. If true, that’s exceptionally stupid.
My car will turn ON the automated features if it suspects a crash is imminent. This has saved me previously, when the car in front of me rapidly changed lanes revealing a car waiting to turn left directly in front of me. My car SLAMMED its own brakes and managed to stop faster than I thought a car could stop, and I hadn’t been using the intelligent cruise control or anything.
But I guess Ford is less worried about the software getting a possible bad rap since they’re, you know, a car company.
I get the Tesla hate, I'm also not a fan of Musk and his antics, but can you share a source that says Tesla are inherently worse in crashes than other vehicles? The NHTSA gives overall 5-star safety ratings to Teslas, the highest score possible; the leader of the NHTSA is notoriously anti-Tesla (because of Musk's antics), and is on record saying that she wants to reign him and the company in (and rightfully so).
From this article: https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/18/business/why-do-people-keep-crashing-teslas/index.html
The article goes on to say that research indicates that the likely cause of a higher rate of EV crashes is drivers 1) not being accustomed to the differences between EV and ICE vehicle handling, and 2) EVs overall having more speed and power than ICE vehicles.
I'm interested in learning more about how EV crashes seem to be worse.
From the article you're commenting on:
That seems to be fairly relevant when they're such a small percentage of total cars....
I have zero idea why you're jumping from Teslas to all EVs.
But under testing scenarios the brakes are usually hit before impact. Tesla dumps autopilot to avoid it being blamed and a human doesn't have time to hit the brakes.
Other self driving stays engaged and brakes, even non self driving has autobrakes, Tesla's effectively don't when in self driving, I get that part is confusing, but I've explained it at length. If something isn't clear about that still, please be specific.