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[–] [email protected] 167 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

All I can think of is a TED talk I saw where the speaker had given some presentation to a bunch of billionaires and had some q&a, and one of them who had built a bunker for themselves asked him how they could prevent their security team from turning on them in the bunker.

The TED talk guy responded "Be kind to them?"

And the Billionaire said "But where does that end?"

I'll try to find it so I can link it.

EDIT: Found it!

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’ll try to find it so I can link it.

Oh god please do.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure it was the same guy who did the “it could happen here podcast.” Then they were like, can we put shock collars on the security guards. Stuff like that.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago

Robert Evans? The man is a national treasure.

If you haven't heard his miniseries "Behind the Police" (ironically a four episode special in a much longer running serial podcast called "Behind the Bastards" which is not only about police) I strongly recommend it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I managed to find what I was thinking of, but it concludes with a totally different line about them than I remembered. I think @[email protected] is right, and the "where does that end?" quote might be from a segment in a Robert Evans podcast.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Wait! I found it! It was the same guy from the TED talk, but on a different podcast!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nS3-dQen-YM

relevant part at 4:20

also @[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I don't think it was a ted talk, I'm pretty sure it was a seminar put on specifically by the billionaire class asking this guy how best to navigate societal collapse with their vast amount of resources.

This I believe was one of the exchanges at that event.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What’s incredible to me is that they don’t realize that societal collapse will render their resources more or less worthless. Their options are the same as everyone else’s: get a bug out plan, be ready to abandon all belongings, etc. What are you planning to do to keep your bunkers stocked past the first month? How will you pay your security if your banks are gone or your currency is worthless?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

Exactly. These people don't think rationally. They truly believe they'll have a group of sycophants who will do anything they say because they had them all this time before.

When shit hits the fan, you need to be the only one with the keys to the shock collars. You need to basically become Batman.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You're right, though I was first introduced to the story from the guy telling it at a TED talk. I phrased it poorly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

And it's funny because the answer is build an egalitarian compound where your share of the labor is the funding. That's it. If the guards see it as how they contribute to a shared community then they're not going to turn on their boss

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

EDIT: Found it!

Wow, that was actually an extremely insightful conversation. Thank you for going out of your way to share it!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

That video was freakin amazing and insightful!

You should make this it's own post so more people can spread it

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

The guy is called Douglas Rushkoff and he wrote a book on the subject called "Survival of the Richest: Escape fantasies of the Tech Billionaires".