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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 week ago (4 children)

She'd had done fine if she did three things:

  1. Continued the initial push of laying her foot into the collective asses of the MAGA collective. That first month or so was great and Dems needed that energy.

  2. Gone against Biden and condemned the situation in Gaza AND remind everyone that Ukraine is still going.

  3. Not listened to the idiot Dem "strategists" who seem so fucking convinced that courting modern Conservatives is a good idea.

Had she done these three things and even the shit communications of the Dems could not have stopped the word of mouth and internet celebrity status she would have had.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Or, she could have courted conservatives by going after the health insurance industry. Democrats are still operating like it's the 1990s.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

She didn't though. Given the fact she never won a presidential primary it was unsurprising that she ran a poor campaign.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's the thing: She was doing fine initially. Not even when you measured her up against Biden, just in general. She came out verbally lashing Trump and challenging everything he and his cronies tried to do. She did exactly what I was hoping she'd do and lean on her experience in law and not tried to be charismatic.

What I suspect happened is she was pulled aside and told it wouldn't work. Chances are she was made to bend and rather than leverage her position she did bend. Or perhaps she was convinced to do so, I don't know. After Bernie in 2016 I don't trust the Dems at all when it comes to elections. Not in the sense of corrupt votes or whatever, in that they'd choose a losing candidate or choose to lose over having to admit they need to step aside and let the energy flow.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What I think you are trying to say is:

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’ve thought about this quote a lot since the election lol. Timeless.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah, pretty much...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Biden, a white man, only stepped down because his own numbers showed him losing terribly too. The dems have lost the plot and are not speaking to (both in person and as a platform) their base.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

A white man embracing Cuban and Cheney but running as a dem, supporting a genocide, and telling people worried about the economy that they're doing just fine would have lost too. Unless you're a racist yourself, dont confuse stupid with racism and sexism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Maybe? The huge chunk of people who didn't vote for her were white middle class suburban men. There might have been a simple racial bias to factor in as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

She lost traction with every single demographic except white college educated. Stop trying to make this solely about individual demographic differences. It clearly wasnt.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

That worked so well for Hillary Clinton. Let’s face it, we are not ready for a women president. We won’t even let them head committees in Congress!