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[–] [email protected] 120 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They're trying every angle they can think of to avoid admitting that people didn't react negatively to this because literally everyone in the country has been negatively affected by people like that CEO.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

people didn't react negatively to this because literally everyone in the country has been negatively affected by people like that CEO.

Also outside the US country. I'm Brazilian, I've been following the news about this event, and I can't help but notice there's a hope inside me that this event could somehow result in CEOs all around the world (especially in the southern hemisphere) changing and ditching their greed. Well, of course it's very unlikely to happen, maybe I have some tiny optimistic side buried under tons of massive pessimism of mine.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’ve been hoping it won’t be the last CEO to get deposed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's what the NYT and others are afraid of. Copycats making this a trend and then the whole situation spiraling into French Revolutiom 2.0, or heavens forbid, October Revolution 2.0

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

changing and ditching their greed

No they won't because while they of course are greedy, it's not really greed which is fueling that on the systemic level, but the inherent capitalism mechanism to concentrate capital. Companies compete and that competition ultimately leads to either monopoly or formation of cartel, the ones with more profits are the winners and the losers get eliminated from the market.

What they will do, is to hire more bodyguards, isolate themselves from society even more and fund more propaganda like the article in topic.

The only thing that can change things, as proven historically, is not adventurism (however cool is to dish at least minuscule part of overdue justice) nor the spontaneous outrage, but the organized workers power threatening the capitalist class and their government servants.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I get you, but let us have hope for 5 minutes. It’s more than we’ve had in our whole lives.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Ok, you can have even 3 hours

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

They won’t, they’ll tighten their security. Anyone who goes against the shareholders will be removed and replaced by somebody who will maximize profits at all costs.

Doesn’t mean there won’t be copycats who are successful. A whole lot of people have been wronged and the justice system doesn’t work.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

In another sense: these CEOs are the people responsible for infiltrating other countries with the shitty US model of healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It won’t happen, best we can hope for is that it tempers the greed for a bit.

It would need to happen a few (dozen) more times to effect real change.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If I believed in a deep state (which I categorically do not) NYT would be part of it.

I do, however, believe in giant media companies funded by the 1%, who have just lost one of their own to one of the plebs, staffed by management who will steer things in the needed direction. Any doubt I had of that has been destroyed by their coverage of Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If I believed in a deep state (which I categorically do not)

It’s very real, it’s just not anything like what far-right conspiracy theorists think it is[1][2][3].

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 minutes ago

the deep state just isn't that deep, more of a cut-and-cover state than a deep level tube

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

What do you mean by deep state?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I've seen multiple stories about the positive reactions.