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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Rural tradepeople in Europe rarely have trucks. Vans do the job in the vast majority of cases, a trailer can complement when needed.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not to mention a van has the benefit of keeping the load dry

Which depending on what you do and where can be very important

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They also keep dirt and road dust off your tools and materials. Vans also conceal your cargo better than a bed which can prevent theft. Most vans are more fuel efficient than similar sized trucks. Vans are usually easier to drive and have better visibility. A big enough van can fit a small workshop in the back, that you can stand in and assemble parts.

Vans are the better work/trade vehicles compared to trucks for most applications and that is a hill I will die on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I use a 4 door short bed truck, and here's why. I need to pick up my kids half the days of the week. I don't have a van anymore because I do demo work and I got tired of riding inside with the dust. I just build a wood rack if i need to haul more. I'd get a 4 door, long bed truck, which would be the best ever except it's just too dang long to park. So when the kids aren't around I fold up the rear seats and the tool boxes go in there. Is what it is. I long for the days when I drove a car with a toolbag in the trunk.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

They used to make single cab trucks with a bench seat to fit 3 people total and it still had a full sized bed. If you've only got 2 kids that design would probably have been better for you, but they don't make many of this style anymore.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've got a work van (one of the smaller Ford Transits), but it's just not capable of towing anything really. Trucks do a lot better on the muddy hillsides I find myself on frequently.

FWIW I'm not arguing against you, I'm just saying in my personal case, I would be able to put a reasonable truck to good use. I don't need a King Ranch or anything stupid like that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All wheel drive vans with higher towing capacity exist

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

My dad had a micro van in NYC and got along fine