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I’ve known a few in the U.S., and even worked at one. Maybe people won’t become billionaires doing this, but why wait for a complete overhaul of society to implement more of what are good ideas.

I’d also like to see more childcare co-ops, or community shared pre-k schools. Wheres the movement to build communities and pool resources around these business models in the US? In short, co-ops are the closest socialist/communist business model that’s actually implemented in the U.S., so why are more leftists not doing this?

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I actually tried to do this with a bar I owned back in the day. It was exciting / hopeful.

It went into effect January 1st, 2020. January for bars is rough because people do "dry January" so we hoped February and March would be good.

We all know what happened. It didn't survive. Spent a good year or so continuing to pay wages and healthcare out of my own pocket, but I hit a point where I had to call it (mostly because I ran out of money and couldn't get any more loans).

I plan to try again in the future, once I have the loans paid off and some padding saved again.

I also dream of a day where somewhat self-sustaining communes become more prevalent. Everyone living together on a shared plot and exchanging goods & services instead of money. Maybe it's a pipe dream? I don't know. I feel like it'll become necessary over the next 4 years though.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

That's damn bad timing. Wishing you luck for the next one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

We’ve gotten so far away from that communal living spirit, culturally. Look at the way people get into snits with their neighbors over little things like fence repair or whatever. It’s been a long time since people depended on the folks next door for survival, and we’ve forgotten how to give a shit. It can be relearned, and there are little candles of that spirit burning here and there still. But it ain’t the old days in the farming village anymore.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Everyone living together on a shared plot and exchanging goods & services instead of money.

Can't imagine looking for an alcoholic shoemaker willing to exchange a pair of shoes for 10 liters of vodka.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Hippie 1: Right now we're proving we don't need corporations. We don't need money. This can become a commune where everyone just helps each other.

Hippie 2: Yeah, we'll have one guy who like, who like, makes bread. A-and one guy who like, l-looks out for other people's safety.

Kyle: You mean like a baker and a cop?

Hippie 1: No no, can't you imagine a place where people live together and like, provide services for each other in exchange for their services?

Kyle: Yeah, it’s called a town.

Hippie 1: You kids just haven't been to college yet. But just you wait, this thing is about to get HUGE.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

This is what I'd want to do (the bar not the commune) if I won the lottery.

So yes I agree with the top post here, it's lack of access to capital that limits this. Farm cooperatives happen because people own farms. It's very difficult to grow these from the bottom. You would have to buy your share, with money or work.

We need more co-op businesses and also more entrepreneurship from the bottom and small business grants can help with that. You can't only yank wealth from the top, they got it from us, we can make more and keep it in our communities.