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The Incredibles (2004) (lemmy.zip)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The Incredibles isn't Randian propaganda by any stretch. This interpretation is wildly missing the film's messages about society. Brad Bird, the director, called the "Ayn Rand" interpretation of the film "nonsense" and "ridiculous" in multiple interviews when this interpretation started getting parroted by people who didn't get the point of the film.

I think it got misinterpreted a few times. Some people said it was Ayn Rand or something like that, which is ridiculous. other people threw Nietzsche around, which I also find ridiculous. But I think the vast majority of people took it the way I intended. Some people said it was sort of a right-wing feeling, but I think that's as silly of an analysis as saying The Iron Giant was left-wing. I'm definitely a centrist and feel like both parties can be absurd.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

I'm definitely a centrist and feel like both parties can be absurd.

is he thinking of the dems and the republicans? lmfao terminally american.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This does literally nothing to refute the interpretation. I could care less that the director heard the Rand comparison and thought that meant people thought he was a Republican or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So, can you tell me in your own words what scene(s) in the film makes you think this Randian interpretation is valid?

I've seen this film more than most people (it's my favorite movie; I've seen it probably two dozen times since it released), and I am comfortable discussing any scene wherein you think the viewer's takeaway is meant to be that "the unexceptional are intimidated by exceptional people and force them to perform inadequacy for the comfort of others and how this is a net loss for society."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yes it's a very common take but I don't think it's correct. Bob basically makes this exact speech when arguing with Helen in the house, and then proceeds to nearly get his entire family killed to sate his own ego. Syndrome is literally a consequence of Bob's superiority complex not allowing him to treat a normal person with dignity.