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Maybe I’m just face-blind or being dense but the photos from the scene of the crime look like a different dude than the ginning hostel check in guy. The jackets and backpacks are different. Although people can have multiple jackets and backpacks. We don’t see much of the shooters face but the eyebrows look different. Although, people can pluck/shave eyebrows. I guess the happy hostel guy would have come forward and been like “WTF?” and “I have an alibi” if it wasn’t him?

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can use your phone call for whomever, just know it's not private and you best hope whomever you call will actually help you.

The distinction I was making is that the response to "can you get me a lawyer?" could just be the cops walking out of the room and coming back several hours later and seeing if you've changed your mind. The same thing for "I'll wait till my lawyer is here."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Isn't your "phone call" a Hollywood trope? It's not like you get to gamble on the highest stakes call of your life (oops, line's busy or you misdialed or whatever), but you only get one chance like it's some legal gotcha the cops can pull on a suspect.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've been in enough jails to say with some certainty: it depends. Like unmagical posted, some places you will absolutely get a phone call at some point. In others, it's pretty much an 'executive privilege.'

The truth lies in the squishy, wet world of humanity, not the written word of the law. In one jail I know of, they'd give you three chances to make a free phone call (the other party has to accept, because they can't let an abuser call the abusee without some warning of who it is), and if they weren't busy, you would be able to keep trying for a couple of hours. Another place, you might get the phone call, but it could be 18+ hours after you were brought in and you had already seen the judge, been given a personal recognizance bond, and would be delaying your exit from said jail if you made the call. Jailers sometimes like to put the thumb screws to you in any way they can.

Most of the time, inmates will have access to a phone 24/7. Even in solitary, a phone was available. It looked like a pay phone strapped to a dolly that got wheeled right up to the door of the cell and the phone would stick through the little food slot you could look out of. Those phones require money on their account, and it works in a similar manner to the old collect calls. Those phone calls can be as expensive as a dollar a minute. A law was passed in the US around the end of Obama's term or the beginning of Trump's that was supposed to set a limit on how much those calls could cost, but I don't remember what came of it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know what you were doing to end up in enough jails to know that, but I suspect that if there's additional knowledge here, it's that we should probably not do whatever that was

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

At least in Florida, according to this, you are entitled to complete at least one phone call.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's too bad that cops are and COs think they are above the law. They WILL steal all your money, they MAY beat you up, and you MAY get a phone call if you behave like you're their little bitch. They like that.