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This is a place to share greentexts and witness the confounding life of Anon. If you're new to the Greentext community, think of it as a sort of zoo with Anon as the main attraction.

Be warned:

If you find yourself getting angry (or god forbid, agreeing) with something Anon has said, you might be doing it wrong.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

(do people really get upset about this? Im asexual and cannot tell. Sometimes this kind of thing seems fake like why would you waste energy on this? But at the same time i am aromantic and asexual so i dont know. Im probably just weird or something and a "freak of nature" as some might say.)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Remove the romance element from it.

If the bottle spins, someone has to spend time in your company doing something you enjoy. You and your friends all agree. The bottle lands on you, and suddenly whatever it was you enjoy is not just "unenjoyable" but is actively repulsive to the other people. Ironically, I'd expect people to be repulsed by having to do half my hobbies, so this isn't a perfect reframing.

Apologies if I'm not being sensitive to your thought patterns. But there must be a way of reframing this that you can see why someone would be upset that their "friends" find them actively repulsive to even be around.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think you've got a good approach. I'm not fully allosexual myself, but it seems to me the most painful part of this would be the loss of esteem. To be excluded from anything so blatantly...

People want to be liked. It means social safety, inclusion in a group. Sexuality is just one of its expressions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

(is it possible i just dont understand social stuff at all? I still dont get it. Maybe im just this damaged.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Social stuff is hard for many people. I'd wager most people are not even consciously aware of social status, social transactions, etc. It's not something that is really taught, so it's no surprise when someone is blind to it.

But if you ever feel bad because of what someone said or did, it's possible you're subconsciously reacting to a threat to your status (import and safety within a group).

Why do you say you're damaged?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Stop putting your comments in parentheses

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

It makes sense to me as a parenthetical comment

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago

(i really still dont get it. I dont see whats repulsive about it. But it is interesting. Like i guess its just weird to me. Like if you know there is a possibility of it landing on the one everyone is repulsed by, why play? Like mathematically youre better off playing when that person isnt around? Or is that just not really a concern until it eventually does happen?)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Would you be upset if you found out people considered you ugly?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Disgusting is more accurate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

(im already considered ugly. I am not upset by this. But i kind of see your point. I think many years ago it used to upset me when i was really young)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, people can get upset about this kind of thing.

14 yr olds triply so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

(yeah i had to think really far back but i feel like i got upset about things like this a lot when i was young. I just dont really fully remember it?)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

do people really get upset about this?

Yes. I'll dive in, assuming that the greentext is real; the scenario is plausible enough.

Romantic rejection is painful, as it's based on an instinct to achieve a strong mutual bond with someone else. This may or may not be conflated with a drive to reproduce, depending on the level of sexual attraction involved. The sensation of loss here, can manifest in actual physical pain in one's head and/or viscera, and is proportional to the level of "drive". This also gets coupled with a sensation of loss as the reward for achieving that mutuality is a moment that is usually followed by intense pleasure (even without sex); suddenly realizing that reward isn't coming, hurts.

The second part, where the group continues without Anon, is similar but a different phenomenon. It's rejection from the entire social group. Our instincts to be social creatures causes us to feel this as a loss (painful), because we're safer and stronger in groups. Instinctively, the sensation will subside once Anon figures out how be confident with being alone, or (more likely) finds a more compatible social group.

Attempting to introspect the above sensations without support can also go to bad places. Anon mentions his self-esteem - they are blaming themself since that's a position of "control", but ignoring the reality that this was all impossible to predict or avoid. In reality, the other partygoers are a bunch of insensitive assholes and carry 100% of the blame here. This person really needs to be around people with more empathy.

Combined, Anon is in a world of physical and psychological pain. They were denied a potential romantic and/or sexual reward, and were rejected by the entire social group. Both forms of rejection provoke instinct and our reward centers in ways that just make a person miserable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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