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Can anyone help me understand why Hasan Piker is so popular in leftist political spaces despite his immense privilege? (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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This guy's dad is the former VP of a multibillion dollar Turkish conglomerate, as well as the secretary of a government department. Mom and Dad were able to fly to their other home in NJ to give birth so he'd get US citizenship. His uncle is the founder and owner of TYT Media and gave him his media career. He went to Rutgers. He lives in a multimillion dollar mansion in the Hollywood Hills. This is by definition not the kind of person who can be a voice of the People. Saying "I recognize my privilege" over and over, while living his lifestyle, doesn't negate his privilege and complete lack of real-life experience outside of the curated garden of the wealthy. He gets paid obscene amounts of cash to sit in his bedroom and word-vomit for 9 hours a day. Why are his unending opinions taken so seriously? He gives me strong controlled opposition vibes.

Edit: Thank you all for this discussion. I learned a lot.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hes good at breaking down media. Gets involved on community organizing. Does good propaganda.

People are free to like who they like and make up their own minds. Why you hating? Who made you thought police?

[+] [email protected] -10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I guess his ubiquity annoys me when he strikes me as hypocritical. Thought police? That's just a weird thing to say. Why am I "hating?" Nobody hates the Left more than the Left.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I like that he's focusing on the relationship between labor and the means of production and its not about being poor or rich per se.

Exactly why the infighting when we have bigger fish to fry.

[+] [email protected] -8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Fair enough. Guess I'll delete before the hive attacks in full.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't delete. There is no hive. Let the opinions and discussion happen, read them all, see if anything sways you. If not that's fine, if it does that's fine too. You asked, hear the answers

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago

You right

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

No.. Its a good discussion.. Maybe add an edit or a caveat... I do feel there are a few people out there who don't like him for the reasons you stated. But end of the day bigger fish to fry. As long as we keep that in mind it's all good to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Anyone who doesn't agree with you is a sheep right?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Let's not do that.. Its good to talk as long as you're also open to listening

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, lmfao. But it's clear from the overall response that the assumption is that I must be some kind of rightwing troll, just because I'm sick of the guy. Leftist =/= Hasan fan.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I only see one person who questioned if you were trolling. And the response you’ve largely gotten are because people don’t agree with your point of view.

It’s good to have advocates in positions of privilege. If we were all to rely on someone like yourself to try and change hearts and minds, how quickly and widespread can you move that message and get people to understand the plight of workers? Not as quickly as someone with privilege and influence who can help with that.

I don’t know this guy or his politics, just examining this discussion and (as with the other responses you’ve gotten) not really sure where you’re coming from with this. You said yourself your co-workers listen to this guy all day, you can see that kind of thing is important right? (If it’s the right message he is pushing of course)