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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

I see what you’re saying, but they can’t become a comrade if they died of despair. We need all the people we can get, so if that’s what it takes them to get to enlightenment, so be it. I say, eat the pills that make you numb until you’re to a place where you can stand, then let them go (and maybe step into some psychedelics if you want to/are able) and open your eyes to the horror around you, now able to face it. Then we can fight the system together.

It worked for me anyway.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Been on them for three decades, no such luck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s okay, maybe you’re not ready. Honestly, the psychedelics helped me more than the antidepressants ever did, but you have to be ready to walk down that road.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Actually, I have been interested. It's not an approved method of treatment, so it's inaccessible for those of us not familiar (or comfortable with) going the less than legal route. The information I've gathered on the topic makes it seem risky, so someone who really knows what they're doing needs to be there to guide me through it.

TLDR I'm interested, but it needs to be a good experience.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Microdosing is a lot less risky, mushrooms spores are legal to buy, and growing mushrooms is a fun hobby that’s not terribly difficult, just takes some commitment. That’s what I did.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Less risky" is still a risk I don't want to take without some good guidance/assistance from someone who's familiar with the ropes. Although it was quite some time ago, I have attempted to off myself once before, and there have been plenty of times since where I've come close to trying again. As such, I think it's too risky for me to follow your path.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I trust you to trust yourself, and having the right mindset is essential. But if you ever get your ducks in a row, I encourage you. Microdosing has opened new pathways for me, some that are difficult to walk, but I’m strong enough to face them now and I’m better for doing so. Good luck on your journey.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The point is, from an epidemiological perspective, the correct treatments to advocate for are things like environmentalism and consumer protection law, not easier access to prozac or whatever. We will never solve the problem until we're honest with ourselves, as a society, about the root causes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, I get that, but you have to do what you have to do to stand on your own two feet before you stare at the ugliness of the world and face it, otherwise it will break you. If that takes antidepressants, take them until you’re ready to shake them off.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

they can’t become a comrade if they died of despair

I believe it could happen one day, if some nerds can figure out how to do brain preservation. (well, that and whatever tech/biology stuff is needed to revive and support a brain)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I knew a full-on singulatarian who killed himself due to mental illness. Someone dying of despair will never preserve their brain for (what they see as) unending torture.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I was focusing more on the death part, and that dying in such a setting is a small step up from despair if arranging hope existed. Even if considered impossible, it'd basically be euthanasia which is still better than a true death of despair.

However I was also talking about physical preservation. A digital copy does not do anything for me. Though yeah, revival conditions would still be a worry either way if it could not be put into some kind of revival contract.