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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Liberalism and its "freedom" hasn't taken root because:

  1. Liberals fucked the whole region in the first place.

  2. Shareholder profits are not going to inspire the masses to take up arms and fight.

Liberalism cannot provide a better future for anyone, so the people turn towards the groups who try to provide a change.

Extremely funny you say this in this situation since there is a group here fighting for freedom and democracy but they're stinky reds, so you'll hate them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Extremely funny you say this in this situation since there is a group here fighting for freedom and democracy but they’re stinky reds, so you’ll hate them.

The other things you said can be accepted as opinions, but here I'll have to correct you: In this conflict, Bashar al-Assad is the socialist (Ba'athist), and the group "fighting for freedom and democracy", as you put it, is Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham. They are a far-right islamist religious fundamentalist terrorist organization.

So essentially nobody in Syria is fighting for any sensible definition of democracy or freedom.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

I was talking about AANES, not the "socialist" Assad or the clearly religious authoritarian groups in the area.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I liked the image I saw a few days back. Conservatives will play to your base needs (food/water, shelter, family), while Liberals/Socialists expect selflessness and assume all your needs are already met, including self-fulfilment.

Especially in the poorer and war torn regions of the world, the former is magnitudes more appealing. If non-extremist groups want to have a chance, they need to cover the bases first.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's a good elevator speech, can I borrow it? Christmas dinner with my mom's side of the family is coming up quick.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Of course, lemme look for the original.

E: can't find it anymore. It speaks about the top and bottom three layers of Maslow's pyramid and how liberals expect transcendence and selflessness, while conservatives falsely promise the bottom three layers and act like the rest don't matter.