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Summary

Donald Trump’s appointment of John Phelan, a private investment firm chairman with no military experience, as Secretary of the Navy has sparked backlash from some of his supporters on Truth Social.

Many pro-Trump users, including veterans, criticized the pick as rewarding a donor or friend instead of selecting someone with Navy experience.

Some expressed feelings of betrayal, accusing Trump of abandoning their values and making decisions that harm the nation.

The move has raised questions about qualifications and loyalty among his base.

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[–] [email protected] 148 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Election is over, he does not care what anyone thinks.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

This is the most terrifying part. They say that he's "liberated" now, but to me that just means he has nothing to lose. Assuming he lives past January 2029, he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by throwing all resources into staying in power. He has no reason to give a fuck about whether anything he does or says is "popular" once he's sworn in. There will be zero consequences for anything until he leaves office, if he leaves office.

The dumb motherfucker proved that somebody with the mentality of a six year old can win the US presidency and then do whatever the fuck he wants, and he'll never face a single, real, goddamn consequence. I am ashamed of my country, and it's horribly depressing how many people died serving our military just to have this flag-hugging dipshit get to be the commander in chief, and he'll sell out to the highest bidders and get several more killed.

We're fucked, and only a small fraction of his worshipers are even beginning to see that. And when the shit hits their fan specifically, most of them will find a way to blame somebody else, probably somebody who is brown and/or has a vagina. Most of these incurious assholes will line up for whatever strong daddy negs them hard enough, and right now that's trump, and there will be a new strong daddy successor to tell them what to do and who to love and how to dress. Strong daddy hurts you and controls you, but at least you don't have to make decisions for yourself when you have strong daddy there to tell you what to think.

Fucking pathetic.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Even dictators need public support. This is a fundamental truth about leadership, that even Trump can't escape. Those that don't tend to have a short life expectancy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You can convincingly fake having public support if you control the media.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The support of the military and corporations are far more important than the people. Authoritarians have been using the military and corpos to oppress the people for centuries.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

And I think it's clear to most of us that Trump doesn't control the corpos but the opposite, they control him.

He's not going to skip any opportunity to enrich himself. Deregulate and sell is going to be their mantra, shit is going to get so bad over the next few deacdes. I wonder if America will even be recognizable in a century.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Those that don’t tend to have a short life expectancy.

Here's hoping!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Commander in Queef*

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He'll be out after his four years. The important parts for him were grifting and escaping consequences. He'll have accomplished that, even after he leaves office.

The damage he'll do in the meantime...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think k you missed the part where he unironically wants to “run for a third term.” And has literally every check and balance in his pocket.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

He's not going to win a third term. And he won't be able to cheat into a third term. I'm not concerned about that.

I'm concerned about A. the damage this term, and B. the smarter version that follows a similar playbook.

However, you have to be pretty fucking dumb to be the President of the United States and still feel like you have any obligations to Russia. You tell the CIA what you fucking did, and they take care of it. What is he worried about, the pee tape getting out? Just call it fake news like he has literally everything else. It doesn't matter how much evidence there is. It never matters how much evidence there is. People follow him anyway.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

He's not going to win a third term. And he won't be able to cheat into a third term. I'm not concerned about that.

Oh buddy, haven't you been paying attention? Disenfranchising voters and rejecting unfavorable election results has been one of their biggest priorities.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

He's not going to win a third term. And he won't be able to cheat into a third term. I'm not concerned about that.

The number of times he's flown right past that, things he's said or done that were guaranteed to lose him the election, or get him impeached and removed from office, or at least lose support among his base or Congress, or get him prosecuted, or or or...

Yeah, at this point, I'm not betting anything or anyone will realistically stop him.

And if you're betting on the Constitution blocking him from running again, remember that him being inaugurated is already a violation of the Constitution as an instigator of insurrection against the US government. Nobody is going to stop him. Do you really think it'll be different in '28? After 4 years of no longer solidifying but outright cementing his judiciary at all levels he can seat? With an executive branch that's been purged of non-loyal employees?

He's been underestimated at every step, except for the 2020 election, the one time he's truly lost anything. So you really think underestimating him now and expecting norms and laws to keep him in check when they've literally never done so is a good idea?!?