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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (5 children)

We can make it harder to get a gun. But there are so many already in the US its difficult to rein that back in.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

More guns is the solution, like in schools. Arm the custodians! Arm the vice-principals! Arm the unarmed!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Tangential, I find the push to arm teachers so weird. I can only imagine the job offers. "Your job will require you to teach children, raise them and show kindness and compassion. Also you need to kill them if they start shooting."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

"Also while working in war zones might come with danger pay, you're a teacher so we will pay you barely starvation wages and you'll have to buy supplies from your personal money."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I support gun rights but I think it’s crazy to think about arming teachers. It just seems like such a disconnect to me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We should probably train the cops not to run away like a bunch of cowards.

There’s been a few shootings where the school had a cop on duty, who was armed, and the cop ran out of the building when the shooting started.

Should be a crime to abandon people, let alone children, like that

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I agree. I get being scared but you signed up to do the job.

I was a volunteer cop for many years. I cringe when I hear about cops refusing to enter a building or running away from the gun fight.

I get there are times when it makes sense, single gunman barricaded in a room, yeah, maybe wait for more people or SWAT but they could have saved many lives by doing something.

Hell most of these turds shot themselves when confronted. It is rare for there to be a shootout with the cops.

Why I believe in police reform so badly. I admit I want a unicorn, but I want a cop who is compassionate and enforces the law without prejudice. A person who can see it from the lens of the person who he is dealing with but can also kick ass when needed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Combining your comment and another one talking about how America's mental health also sucks and often makes illnesses worse the thing about America is that everything is corrupted and lazly done ether it be our politicians or the medical field we have the services people need but corruption is making it so when shit happens to you you might as well be on your own

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Well if you support more people having guns, it's inevitable people are going to look for solutions to some of those people shooting up schools

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Also, it's the same people who trust teachers with guns in the classroom that think teachers can't be trusted with books in the classroom.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Arm all of the kids while we're at it. Only a good kid with a gun can stop a bad kid with a gun.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You know how many babies get abducted from hospitals?! Arm them too!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I dunno about you and yours, but my babies come from the stork with arms

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oh shit, better do nothing then.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Not what i said.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Just have the same beuracroracy you have for vehicles. Yearly registration. And same licensing as liquor. Only licensed sellers.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Implement a buyback program like Australia did. They stopped the sales and paid above market value for any gun for a certain period of time. It works.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Australia had nowhere near the saturation of gun ownership America has, and the common firearms there were simpler and cheaper. A gun buy-back would be much more expensive.

Then there's the differences in public sentiment. It's pretty obvious the American right-wing would overwhelmingly refuse to sell their guns at any price, and they represent the majority of gun owners. With current lefty distrust of police and rising extremists in the right, left wing gun owners don't seem likely to willingly disarm either. If anything I've seen an uptick in leftists arming themselves.

But even if I'm wrong, a buy-back would do nothing if we don't stop the sales of new guns first which would require an amendment to the Constitution effectively repealing one of the bill of rights. That's pretty much the highest hurdle possible in the American government.