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Even after Israel treated Biden like shit for four years in response to unquestionable support...
Israel backed trump instead and Biden still is fighting his own party on this instead of spending his last few weeks with any power trying to mitigate Trump's incoming damage.
At this point I honestly don't understand how anyone can claim Biden was anything but a waste of four years that was so unproductive it let trump back into the White House.
I don't give two shits if these ultra conservative Dems are slightly better than a republican. I know I can hold my nose, been doing it for a long time.
But not enough other people will.
And yelling at them isn't effective.
So why don't we stop trying to shove neoliberalism down Dem voters throats, and just run a candidate Dem voters already want to vote for over trump without needing a billion dollar campaign funded by everyone causing problems for the American people
I agree with your sentiment wholeheartedly as long as you don't sign off with "and that's why I didn't vote in 2024."
Millions of people did exactly that, and so now we get Trump again.
Its pointless to point fingers now but that seems to be why you post. I think you need validation that what you did was the "right" thing. Even if it meant abandoning all your principles, and the lower and middle class in the process. Well I'm here for you buddy. Let me be the robin to your batman:
Yes! You are soo right redditrefugee69!! if it werent for literally every demographic of voter except college educated whites, Kamala would have won! damn them all! The minorities are the bane of our existence! And what happened to all those republicans who we worked so hard on? How dare they turn their backs on a Cheney! We had a cheney republican and a "liberal" dem up there, that should have covered all the bases!
Do you know the worst of the minorities who turned their back on dems? it was Native Americans!! Lets talk about how evil and bad they are!!
/s
Yeah, just glancing at the bottom of your comment pretty well cements reading it would be a waste of time.
Thanks for nothing.
Well, I obviously didn't say that so...
I don't see my point in your comment, and I won't even add a nonsensical hypothetical that you didn't say.
Sometimes people add a "however I still voted for Harris" at the end of their comment to establish they're not one of the dummies that uses your logic to stay home and not vote.
I was trying to feel out whether that was how you felt, and add an explicit negative judgement of that kind of thinking for anyone who felt that way.
I think not doing so is how you get applause from people who handed the election to Trump, kinda like how being a free speech advocate often collects nazi approval unless you explicitly denounce them.
I'm going to start ending all of my posts with. "I'm not a flesh eating amoeba" because apparently we have to declare we aren't ridiculous things now.
When there are literally millions of people who believe something, it's not stupid to establish you agree with most but not all of what they believe.
You can be a jackass about it if you want, though.
Just an FYI there brother, he ain't the one coming off as an asshole in that Exchange.
That's a very nice opinion you have there. It's a shame I don't agree with it.
Go back to reddit.
Likewise! Seems like you belong there more than I do.
You were lying about their position because you can't defend your own.
Where did I lie about their position?
Holy shit are you actually that bad at reading comprehension that you think I said they said that?
If you sign off your comment with "All Palestinians must die. I'm glad Biden has provided material support to Netanyahu's genocide and look forward to Trump finishing the only thing I have ever loved," I have to assume that it's a sincerely held belief of yours.
I couched my accusation in a hypothetical, so I get to pretend it's not an accusation.
My sides are in orbit due to the hilarity in your writing mistakes while trying to criticize my writing.
Can't argue against substance? Make vague insults about form.
We get Trump again because of what the previous commenter said, not you.
Iran, Russia, China and North Korea have formed an alliance. The US supports Israel as a means to an end: preventing Iran from growing in power in that region.
well if thats true, we've alienated our allies in that region so that plan was remarkably stupid. Or, it could just be that our representitives have been bribed and Israel doesnt care what US support for mass murder costs the US long term.
Or that the problem is Netanyahu and there is no easy way to end his genocide without letting Iran and thus Russia, China and North Korea get stronger.
Russia also supports the fascist apartheid regime and, if anything, the genocide emboldens everyone who's already opposed to zionist colonialism.
There's no upside to the people of the US or the rest of the west, only the politicians being bribed and blackmailed by AIPAC and similar de facto foreign government agencies.
TONS of downside, though, not least of which that what they're doing is more morally repulsive and indefensible than even the atrocities that we rightfully despise the Putin regime for doing.
Iran, Russia, China, and North Korea...
Where have I heard this before?
Yeah I'm pretty sure that's not a new one.
Not sure what you mean
They've been in an alliance since 1979. That's not going to change any time soon and Israel has nothing to do with it.
Israel and Iran have been firing missles at each other recently.
As North Korea, Iran and China support Russia’s war, is a ‘new axis’ emerging?
I can't help it if the news is playing dumb.
Russia is at war with Ukraine and North Korea and China are helping while Iran and Israel are exchanging missles. Iranian drones are being used by Russia in Ukraine.
Who’s playing dumb?
I'm not saying they aren't in an alliance. I'm saying it's not new and it has shit all to do with Israel. We have 18 other allies in the region to contain Iran, including countries that actually border it. We don't need Middle East Mussolini.
We don’t need Iran helping Russia invade Ukraine or China invade Taiwan either.
Okay? And what does that have to do with Israel?
Israel and Iran have been firing missles at each other recently.
It is harder for Iran to help Russia and China if Israel can keep them from growing in power in the region. At least that seems to be the opinion of US military intel.
Oh and Israel is the only possible country to do that are they? The 18 countries in the middle east that are closer allies can't possibly do it? We absolutely have to support genocide?
Who is better equipped for it that is already defending themselves from Iran?
You're right, we should be pouring money and material into Iraq. Instead of the country that's sustained a mild barrage because of the genocide it's currently conducting.