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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Try saying Joe Biden is committing genocide on lemmy.world and you will find a plethora of apologists.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I think you're confusing electoral lesser-evilism with genuine support. I'm as fed up with 'Israel can do nothing wrong because history' types as the next guy, but they're hardly a majority

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

People are actively censoring and denying any responsibility from the Democrats regarding the genocide in Gaza.

People are utter the words "Kamala was not perfect" while she is an active participant in a genocide.

It is not "Israel can do nothing wrong because history". Democrats are the main responsible party. Seemingly they can do no wrong because lesser evil.

Have you ever watched one of the dystopian Biden state department briefings? It is lie after lie after lie.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

If you are demanding everyone vote for the people bypassing Congress to send more bombs to the obviously grotesque war criminal country, people are gonna think you support them, because you are.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Do you see me demanding anything? I'm literally only describing what has been my experience around Lemmy, and that your widespread genocide support is just your twisting of what people are actually saying. I think your hostile comment proves my point

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I was using 'you' rhetorically rather than accusing you of anything. IDK how you see that as a hostile one. I'm just explaining why people get rubbed the wrong way by the the vote blue brigade.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Rubbed the wrong way is understandable, but that's not supporting genocide. They're not and I think you know that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

The endpoint of the lesser evilism voting is that you're browbeating people to not protest vote and instead vote for one of the two parties, both promising more genocide, one of which is directly implicated in an entire year of it so far.

To any outside observer ( the people you're trying to sway) it still looks like you support them and everything they've done.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I know, it's the age old reform or revolution debate, nothing new. It's hardly genocide support. Full throated support of Israel's flattening of Gaza gets you buried in downvotes, even on World

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Trying to run a third party is the only viable reformist track- the democratic party is totally unresponsive to reform attempts- recall how Obama personally intervened to stop that last time. He even dismantled his own electoral apparatuses after his first run.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 45 minutes ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago) (1 children)

Is that genocide support tho? You're calling them genocide supporters. I am not discussing the merits of third party voting with you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago)

Supporting a political party that has been participating in a genocide is supporting genocide, the Democrats have been a genocidal regime worse than any in my lifetime