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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

That's literally just politics. Apply the same logic to the recent french elections where competing left-wing candidates dropped out to not split the vote.

Nothing was stopping Bernie from making a deal with Amy and Pete to stay in the race to keep the centrist vote split

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's literally just politics.

This gives the same energy as saying "it's just business" after doing some heinous shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't let idealism blind you to reality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm the one blind to reality? You actually think Bernie had any sway over any one of the moderates who dropped out to give Biden the win? They were loyal to the Democratic Party, not Bernie, and certainly not to their principles, if truly they had any.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

They're ambitious and self-interested. Would Pete have turned down an offer of VP to stay in the race - and potentially still win the presidential nomination - I don't think so

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If it was biden making a deal then that's one thing. I don't think that's what happened. I think the DNC power players or donors said 'we don't want Bernie' and the rest of the group fell in line.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

If that was the case then Buttigege would have just been threatend funding wise and wouldn't have needed to be offered a cabinet position, which only Biden had the power to give.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s literally just politics.

And see, that's the problem people complain about. They are doing bad politics by ganging up to the candidate that's gaining support from the people who are looking for someone different. Those people end up in Trump's camp when the Ds can only offer more corporate elites.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why is that bad politics, but dividing 60% of the democratic centerists amongs Biden, Klob, and Pete to achieve victory good politics?

Aren't you alienating the largest portion of the base who will feel cheated that their candidate only lost because the race was too crowded with centrists?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think it would be better if the voters decided to gang up on Bernie and compromise with Biden over the others. Or the other candidates didn't run at all. This way they just made a mockery of the election process.

Edit: seriously, think about it. Why are you running at all if you're fine with some other centrist taking over eventually? Just to keep up with the illusion of choice? Stay out of the race and let people see they didn't have a choice in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

So you're against candidates being able to drop out and throw their support behind one of the remaining candidates.