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I would love the child of a Surfacebook with a Framework laptop; or A bare keyboard attached to a screen, that I could plug my phone (possibly running Phosh) and use it as a hardware for a laptop experience

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[–] [email protected] 149 points 1 year ago (5 children)

A high-quality dumb TV.

Get your ads (and security vulnerabilities) out of my damn house.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They exist, they're just not cheap since they're meant for enterprise use and should last much longer.

At least for most smart TVs, they're completely operational if you never connect them to the Internet, though.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You still end up with awkward, overcomplicated UIs that make using the TV in basic ways unnecessarily obnoxious.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Want to change the volume? There’s an app for that!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Plug in your own Kodi box. Problem solved.

People who would like to get their hands a bit dirtier can take off the back cover and remove/desolder the WiFi and Bluetooth chips (if present). Just don't touch the IR chip

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is how I use my TV but it's still not perfect. When my TV turns on, it always try to shove a list of "smart apps" in my face which takes a minute to load even with no internet, and the input switcher is slow and clunky. I guess I would accept it anyway though since the smart features push down the price. I don't think I'd be able to afford the LG C1 otherwise

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do use Kodi for local content, but this unfortunately doesn't help with streaming services, and even dedicated steaming boxes have ads on their home screens now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

DNS blocking (Pihole, adaware, nextdns...) Can take care of those ads on dedicated streaming boxes.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just plug a computer into your TV, and never give the TV Ethernet or WiFi access.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Manufacturers have gotten smart to that, if you don't agree to the terms you may not get the full features. Not just the smart features.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting. The only feature I can think of mine missing is firmware updates.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Visio penalizes you for not giving it Internet access by taking extra long to turn on while it vainly tries to phone home. There's no way to turn off the "feature".

Why is it not illegal for manufacturers to cripple hardware if you don't let them invade your privacy?

Are there any alternate firmware sources for TVs that remove the smart features?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I kinda disagree here - I have no problem using smart lights, etc., as long as they're controlled by a non-cloud system like HomeAssistant. This just doesn't seem to be an option for more complex devices.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Agreed, "smart" isn't what matters, it's more connected and in control, with Internet optional, no proprietary app or weird protocol mandatory.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure how an email service helps here...?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry, I don't know why my comment surfaced here. I replied to someone else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Get a pyhole. No more ads (or devices phoning home) in your home network.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

*Pi-hole

Already got one. A lot of devices seem to route ads over channels that can't be blocked without compromising other device functions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

FWIW using an Android video projector with VLC connecting to uPnP server, only my video files availble. Otherwise can use its HDMI input but as-is it's all wireless.