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I've often assumed Harris didn't want to insult her boss by going against him, because I got the impression she was planning to give Netanyahu what for once she took over - especially with him escalating things further and further. Did anyone else get that vibe, or was it just wishful thinking on my part?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can be skeptical all you want, the votes speak for themselves and are all publicly available for you to look at. Biden was an anomaly going against his party.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What do you mean? Biden was an anomaly in his party by supporting a genocide. Harris was the same anomaly, as she stated she would continue Biden's policies with no changes whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No she didn't? I do love me some revisionist history, though I think it's a bit soon for that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What planet are you living on? This is the entire reason she lost. When asked what she would do differently from Biden, she responded:

“There is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of – and I’ve been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact, the work that we have done,”

https://www.cnn.com/politics/harris-2024-campaign-biden/index.html

She didn't want to change any of Biden's policies when it came to Israel. Do you have any evidence that she intended to? Because she certainly never stated as such as far as I'm aware.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

In March 2024, she called for an immediate ceasefire, citing the immense suffering of innocent Palestinians and urging increased humanitarian aid to the region. Whitehouse.gov

Harris has also advocated for a two-state solution, envisioning a unified Gaza and West Bank under the Palestinian Authority, with Palestinian voices central to the peace process. She outlined five guiding principles for post-conflict Gaza: no forcible displacement, no reoccupation, no siege or blockade, no reduction in territory, and no use of Gaza as a platform for terrorism.

She also called for an immediate ceasefire and hostage deal on Colbert Vanity Fair and in Vogue.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

What of those are actually new policies? Has Biden ever come out in favor of Israel annexing the West Bank, or in favor of forced displacement? Of course not. They're liberals, not Republicans. Centrist liberals like Biden and Harris want to talk, but that's all they want to do. There is nothing you cited there that hasn't been happily endorsed by liberals for decades, all while Israel tightens the screws on the Palestinians ever-tighter.

It's all meaningless words and platitudes. While she's SAID things that would be great to do, she has refused to actually use US leverage to DO any of those things. The Biden administration also talks about endorsing a two-state solution and all the things you mention. Again, Biden talks in fluffy glittering generalities when it comes to saving the Gazan people, but he refuses to actually back those words with actions.

What precisely, did Harris propose to actually achieve any of those things she's laid out? What leverage would she use to force Israel to accept these?