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Privacy as in either no telemetry being sent back to the dealer, or the option to turn it off (actually being turned off, not just being set to "off") The digital aspects of privacy, not car window tint.
Modern car as in a car that's built within the last 5 years.
Also, I'm not actually looking for a car, just curious.
Well the base model of the perodua axia sold in Malaysia probably fits your requirements as it does not come with central locking or even a radio.
What a random recommendation
First, you need to differentiate between "dealer" and "manufacturer", except in minority cases like Tesla, they are two separate entities.
Dealers, as a rule, don't have the capacity to accept telemetry data from vehicles. Source: I'm a former dealer sysadmin.
What they can and do do, is download telemetry data stored onboard when you bring the vehicle in for service. This is done through the OBD-II port which has been in every car since 1996.
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/obd-ii-port-used/
If you're concerned (or curious) about what data is passed over OBD-II, you can buy your own scanner, $20 to $100 on Amazon depending on features.
Now, MANUFACTURERS, that's a different deal:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/autos/sc-auto-tips-0102-driving-data-collection-20181225-story.html
For you asking OP twice to specify "privacy" and "modern" (which was very clear what they means, to me at least) your answer is somewhat disappointing now 😁
Huh it's almost like he was using a socratic questioning method in bad faith to make himself look clever (which failed incidentally) rather than actually be part of a conversation or provide any information.
Telling them that a) dealers don't have access to telemetry data beyond what's passed on the vehicle data port and b) providing a news article showing that 3/4 new cars communicate data back to the manufacturers unless you specifically opt out isn't helpful?
Guessing you didn't actually read the article?
OBD2 diagnostic data and telematics are different subjects
You are such an annoying person, you know that?