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Reddit in general and r/politics doesn't have their democratic party astro turf campaign going either. Even here, there was clearly a campaign to convince leftists to stay out of the election.
We need to realize that the majority of people talking to us online during election years are probably not real people.
Anything to avoid self reflection.
Well, you got what you wanted. The orange fascist won.
Nothing that any of us could have done could ever counteract a bad (or good, this goes both ways) campaign on the national level. Sorry. Vote harder next time I guess.
There's probably not going to be a next time.
Nah, this works for Republicans. Things will decline and Republicans will be voted out in 4 years, the Democrats will maintain the best case scenario of the status quo for the time, and then 4 years after that the Republicans will get voted back in, probably a Vance or Musk type. It'll be a circus, the democrats will barely try and probably actively throw the election. You libs will all have false hope, refuse to see the campaign for what it is, and go right back to blaming the voters when the candidate of "this is all very good actually and should keep happening as it is currently, and fuck anyone who says otherwise" loses yet again.
It's very clear what is happening and yet because you feel cornered, you refuse to get mad at anyone on your side who actually has the power to change things, and reject them for not doing so in order to make room for someone who will. You stand for nothing so you fall for anything. Well your "team" has been doing that long enough, and look where it got us. Perhaps you're right and it's too late now, but more of the same was never going to fix this.
Ay yess "you libs". Because I'm the one downplaying the severity of the fascist, and passively accepting their leadership because "don't worry, we'll get back to boring status quo in four years."
Fuckin dipshit. I bet you go around calling anyone who votes, protests or takes any action against the Republicans "Blue maga" too.
I'm not downplaying anything or suggesting we'd be going back to the current status quo in four years, and if you actually read what I wrote in a slightly less cynical way you'd understand that.
I'm telling you now that things will decline under trump and you will vote for the new status quo that will have been wrought about in four years instead of pushing for a platform that even expresses a desire to make things better, and you will fight against anyone telling you we should work together to achieve that end.
I'm not going around calling anybody anything, and I'm especially not denigrating their intelligence. We're not allowed to question your candidates and you're so convinced of your own righteousness that anyone who disagrees is a dipshit or a fascist that deserves everything bad coming to them. But sure, you guys are definitely morally superior to MAGA and totally different from them in every way.
Also, voting for democrats is not "taking action against the Republicans", it's taking action for Democrats, because a) that's just the reality of how voting works, no matter how much you libs cry foul and doublethink yourselves into believing it's not, and b) the Democrats are not taking action against the Republicans. If they were, they would have done something in the last 4 years to prevent the Republicans gaining ground or at the very least run a campaign that wasn't objectively bad and ceded the framing on every issue to the Republicans, making themselves look incompetent.
This outcome works for them, the DNC, just as much as it does for Republicans. They don't give a shit about winning elections and they don't give a shit about you or trans people or minorities or any people who will actually suffer under Republican policy, no matter how strong of a hallucination you get from them being the only alternative to the Republicans you're allowed to consider in our quote-unquote "democracy".
Ofcourse they don't care about citizens, or protecting minorities. But they're the only other people to vote for. Not voting is just giving power to Republicans. Voting is the bare fucking minimum.
If we want more than two parties. If we want a single fucking party that represents citizens we aren't going to get that peacefully. Unfortunately Republicans have full control and have clearly telegraphed that they're going to rip the few shreds of democracy we have left apart. All we really have left is bloody revolution.