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Antisemitic rioters "actively sought out Israeli supporters to attack and assault them" after a soccer match in Amsterdam, authorities in the Netherlands said Friday, with police reporting five people hospitalized and 62 detained after a night of violence

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Afterwards, youths on scooters and on foot crisscrossed the city in search of Israeli fans, punching and kicking them and then fleeing quickly to evade police, Amsterdam Mayor Femke Halsema said.

In Telegram groups, she added, “there is talk of people going on a Jew hunt. That is so shocking and so despicable that I still cannot fathom it.”

Antisemitism. End of discussion. There is no argument that makes this ok. I refuse to engage with anyone furthering the idea that there's any good reason to physically attack these people. Additionally, it is objectively false that antisemitism is confined to attacking religious people for their religion. That is a lie, and it is insanely dangerous to further that sentiment.

https://www.state.gov/defining-antisemitism/

Have a good day!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

There is talk of a lot of things. Did she provide sources, or is it like Trump’s “people are saying…”?

You’re correct that the US has adopted a terrible definition of antisemitism that conflates the state of Israel and the actions of its genocidal apartheid government with Judaism.

Someone recently shared the Jerusalem Declaration on Antisemitism with me, which I find to be a much more reasonable definition of antisemitism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

To preface this: Maccabi Hooligan can fick themselves.

But why the fuck do we paint this as "the brave people of europe do not tolerate apartheit" when people were yelling "Cancer jew" and other shit? Why the fuck do people assume that the VERY prevalent antisemitism in Europe suddenly morphed in to nuanced antizionism now that Israel is openly committing a genocide?

No, both sides of this attack can fuck themselves. Fuck Maccabi fans for shouting genocidal shit, smashing cars and attacking arabs and fuck the attackers for ambushing people, headkicking them while they are downed, stabbing them and applying this treatment to anyone wearing maccabi colors.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Which makes no mention of confining it to religion, it supports exactly what I've said.

Who does the definition cover?

The definition applies whether Jewish identity is understood as ethnic, biological, religious, cultural, etc. It also applies in cases where a non-Jewish person or institution is either mistaken for being Jewish (“discrimination by perception”) or targeted on account of a connection to Jews (“discrimination by association”).

Thank you for confirming that, and no, I've said nothing about how the us definition is terrible.

The article and mayor are objectively correct in denouncing the antisemitism. Those are the facts, and that's it. To suggest the article or mayor is lying to further your argument is misinformation.

I will not entertain any further argument from you in this regard. The facts are against you.