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Summary

Donald Trump’s decisive victory in the 2024 election leaves no room for ambiguity or an “asterisk” in his legitimacy, as he won both the popular vote and the Electoral College.

This outcome represents a clear mandate from American voters, who knowingly chose Trump’s policies and approach.

The anticipated results include pardons for January 6 participants, attacks on the press, and an administration filled with controversial figures.

By voting for Trump, Americans prioritized divisive rhetoric over democratic values, accepting the resulting turmoil.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (55 children)

Something to keep in mind.

Trump didn't win a significant number of new voters. He kept his base, which is roughly the size of what it was in 2020.

The problem was that Harris lost voters. In droves. Nationwide. And she took a lot of winnable downballot candidates with her. And I'm not even saying that to blame her. She ran a magnificent campaign while Trump was most noted for saying "They're eating the dogs!". So why did she still lose, and lose so hard? Because Democrats stayed home. Roughly about 10% of them overall, nationwide. Sure, some of them stayed home or voted 3rd party to protest Gaza, especially in Michigan. But the real story is that she underperformed so badly nationwide. I mean, for the love of God, New Jersey was competitive. That call about Iowa possibly going blue is going to be up there with "Dewey defeats Truman" in terms of political misfires. She severely underperformed with men and Latinos, especially Latino men. Which means this: 8-10 million people couldn't stomach voting for Trump, but they'd rather passively hand over the country to Trump vs. voting for a black woman. Whether the problem they have is the fact that she's black, female, or both is irrelevant. But the message they sent was clear. "We don't want Trump, but we'd rather step back and just let Trump take the country rather than vote for her."

The problems with bigotry in this country go much deeper than some people are willing to admit, and Harris just found that out the hard way. As far as the voting base is concerned, voting for Obama was a mistake that they will not repeat again, and they just proved that by handing Trump everything he wanted on a silver platter instead.

We can't even say that it's an outsized minority any more. A majority of the people in this country just spoke up and said that they either want the racism and bigotry or are at least willing to put up with it.

Trump won the election not because Democrat voters said "Trump!", but because they said "Not Harris."

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (17 children)

She ran a magnificent campaign

The entire point of a campaign is to attract voters...

Because Democrats stayed home. Roughly about 10% of them overall, nationwide.

So I don't see how both statement can be true...

Her campaign did a shit job at getting people to vote for her, how do you consider it magnificent?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Considering where Biden's polling was this summer, the fact that the Dems held onto New York is impressive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is the danger of lowering our bar to Trump's level as "good enough"

Biden could be better than trump.

Kamala could be better than Biden.

But if Kamala isn't good enough, trump would win.

Because as multiple people have been shouting for 8 years:

Being better than trump isn't good enough to get enough votes to beat trump

All of this could be avoided by running decent candidates who won a fair primary. But the DNC won't give that as an option because they want to use the threat of trump to push thru as "moderate" of a Dem as they can to maximize corporate donations.

Beating trump wasn't the DNC's goal, it was raising as much money as possible

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree with you, but you should know that the media is already blaming “the small sliver of the Democratic Party who call themselves progressives.”

Pundits are talking about how Democrats need to shift even further to the right next time. So that’s not going to be fixed any time soon unless voters show up to primaries in a way that can’t be ignored.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The ones owned by billionaires who bought them to control a narrative?

They're always going to say the party has to move right. The entire reasons billions are buying them is to convince people both parties need to move right.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Yes - the ones who tell the majority of the party what to think and do.

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