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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'll bite. "Woke ideology" is polarizing, if not straight hostile terminology. There's a negative connotation so you'll immediately come across as in opposition to certain groups of people. Aside from that you claim that people judge you based on the color of your skin (race) and how you were born (race and/or gender or sexuality). Saying something like that just feels like a protest to people wanting to be accepted for who they are. You come across as though that somehow offends or inconveniences you, a probably straight, probably white, probably male person.

It's similar to responding to "black lives matter" with "all lives matter". BLM isn't about saying people of color are more important, just that they're equally important. Saying all lives matter in response to that is just a protest to their protest to stir shit up.

Hope that explained why you're getting negative responses. If you weren't actually trolling (which I still doubt but whatever) then I apologize. More than happy to write it out in case it helps someone sympathize with the people they're antagonizing for whatever reason.

Full disclosure, I'm a straight white male, I've just had people around me personally affected so this shit bothers me. It's not that hard to just live and let live with a little empathy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I'll bite. "Woke ideology" is polarizing, if not straight hostile terminology. There's a negative connotation so you'll immediately come across as in opposition to certain groups of people.

Where does the negative connotation vome from u think? The ideology itself? The people pushing the ideology?

Aside from that you claim that people judge you based on the color of your skin (race) and how you were born (race and/or gender or sexuality). Saying something like that just feels like a protest to people wanting to be accepted for who they are.

No, I'm quoting Martin Luther King.

You come across as though that somehow offends or inconveniences you, a probably straight, probably white, probably male person.

My race, sexuality, and sex have absolutly nothing to do with my opinions or beliefs. Thats literally what im trying to say.

It's similar to responding to "black lives matter" with "all lives matter". BLM isn't about saying people of color are more important, just that they're equally important. Saying all lives matter in response to that is just a protest to their protest to stir shit up.

Well obviously all people are equally important thats why i dont support race, sexuality, and sex based anything.

Hope that explained why you're getting negative responses. If you weren't actually trolling (which I still doubt but whatever) then I apologize. More than happy to write it out in case it helps someone sympathize with the people they're antagonizing for whatever reason.

Im not bothered by negative responces. Nor did i ask for an explanation of why im getting them.

Full disclosure, I'm a straight white male, I've just had people around me personally affected so this shit bothers me. It's not that hard to just live and let live with a little empathy.

What the fuck does being a straight white male have to do with anything? Have ur beliefs and opinions regardless and be judged on the quality of ur charecter not the colour of ur skin.

Also please answer my godamn question. If i cant say "woke ideology" how would u like me to refer to said concept? Or should I just not mention it at all?