this post was submitted on 05 Nov 2024
122 points (96.9% liked)

politics

19097 readers
3160 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

“Oh, JD Vance, You just effed up in a way that I’ve never seen in my political life. And I worked for Sarah Palin.”

  • Nicole Wallace.
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I misundetstood the headline for a brief moment. For the briefest of moments, I misunderstood, and thought Vance was defending the idea of Harris, though an oppent, still being American, and therefore should be loved by the republican base.

.........and then I realized we don't live in a world where republicans could ever have respect for an opponent.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I thought that too and immediately went, “If he’s trying to lessen the political divide, that’s too little, too late.”

Surprisingly, he does come close to that approach:

Vance asked rally-goers not to discard lifelong relationships "because people vote the wrong way," saying, "Here in our movement, we love every citizen of this country. We want their prosperity because we love this nation, and that means loving the people who live here."

That’s not how MAGA operate. They are fueled by hatred and anger. Besides, Vance doesn’t have the power nor immunity from criticism that their dear leader has. Asking people to “love each other” is close to hippie-talk, which MAGAts despise.

Not only that, but telling their own followers “not to discard relationships” is a weird take. I get the feeling it’s mostly the anti-MAGAts that are cutting the haters out of their lives, not the other way around. People who define themselves by their social status are unlikely to cut off benign contacts - they like keeping followers of lower status around, both for the power and so they can punch down to lift themselves whenever they feel like it. They only cut off those who threaten their higher status, like those who speak up or fight back, or who can “tarnish” their image, such as family members who are LGBTQ+, who date interracially, or do whatever else they disapprove of.

If Vance is expecting that group to listen to him, he sorely misunderstands everything that’s going on. The only way to reconnect such family is to take the hate out of them and get them to honestly redeem themselves to those they have hurt. Which… yeah, that’s not happening.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

God damn dude. I'd read your blog if you want to promote it here.

Maybe it's because I just watched a John Oliver video, but your writing style leaps off the page as impactful as it is truthful.

Personally I think the puppets are full of hate. The puppeters pull the strings knowing that if they sew hate and chaos, they can reap the profits of their destruction.

And it is SO HARD to accuse them of that, because that's exactly their line of rhetoric towards us, and that's why it works. If it was just us showcasing how corrupt and morally bankrupt they are, it would serve to put a spotlight on their behavior. But by doing the same back to us, it comes off as unsustanciated chaos and finger pointing. Which doesn't put a spotlight on anyone.

Here in Ohio we have Sharrod Brown running a political campaign for democrats. I forget the republican opponents name. But the republican opponents campaign commercial was along the lines of "Sharrod Brown approves of born male athletes competing in a dress in high school female sports! Sharrod Brown has shown support for trans rights! Sharrod Brown is a LIBERAL!!!"

And my reaction to this was......even if you ignore the fact that ONE trans athlete was allowed to compete with female volleyball team. ONE. The commercial makes it sound like every school has hundreds of trans athletes. There was one. In the country. One.

But let's ignore that for a second. Lets say hypothetically that every womens volleyball team DID have trans athletes. Or lets go even further. Let's say every volleyball team was now all genders allowed. Lets say Sharrod Brown approved that policy.

The commercial is talking about it like I should be mad that trans athletes competed with female athletes. But my reaction was simply this.....

WHO GIVES A FUCK??? IT'S HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS!!!! WHO GIVES A SINGLE FUUUUUUCK WHO WINS OR LOSES????

I see no reason men and women can't play volleyball together. That includes trans. I can't say I've played a lot of volleyball in my life. Not really my thing. Haven't watched a whole lot either......but I will say, the few games of volleyball I HAVE played, my penis rarely if ever became an active factor in the game. It gave me no advantage. So I fail to see why a trans athlete would have any advantage. And even if he/she DID have an advantage? I would still circle back to the whole "Who gives a shit?" defense.

And I suspect those in power don't give a shit either. It's more of a case of "make the base angry over nothing, and we can control them with issues that don't matter if we lose control over. Therefore there's no risk."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Republicans don't think their opponents are human, let alone American.