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    [–] [email protected] 98 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Most people don't even know what a browser is, let alone an os

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    Yes they do. They know a Mac is different to a PC and they know a phone isn't the same as a desktop. They just don't know what that's called. They still have an intuitive understanding. They still understand that phones do annoying things like denying file system access. They understand that Microsoft products make it harder to save files for no reason. Most people understand the appeal of Linux if you explain it in familiar language. They've just been conditioned by society to fear change.

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    sorry man you are a perfect example of the comic.
    cause most people also dont know what denying system file access even means.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

    They certainly know that it's bullshit to find half the stuff they saved because it's not in folders that make sense to them.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Drag is using language you can understand easily, because drag is talking to you. To a normal person, drag would say "You know how on your phone, you can't just look at your files? Like you have a separate app for photos, and documents, and you can't just look at all your files from one app like you can on PC? Well, you can actually if you use an android. Here's the app that does it: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.nbu.files&hl=en_AU"

    Drag even casually named an operating system during that speech, and would have been understood perfectly by most people.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Kids today barely know what a file is. I have to regularly explain folders and file types. When I asked them where they saved a thing, they answer "On the computer" and look at me like I'm crazy for asking that.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    yes, because folders are not something thats really worthwhile in a filesystem. they're a vestige of an earlier time.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Folders, or directories, really, may not be worthwhile, but when you have more than fifteen files, they're quite convenient.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Userspace concept is my point dont need them in the file system itself

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    In that case you're left with applications implementing it, and hoping for something homogeneous. Which may or may not happen.
    I wouldn't trust it.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    sounds like a you problem. if you think longer on it maybe you'll come up with the obvious layer to implement it at that isn't the kernel.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Enlighten us instead of being a dick lol

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    See desktop portals, and desktop environments you dont need to use the kernel for the folder structure. And shared implantations for adding them in are fairly trivial.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    I think you're confusing user interfaces and API structures there.

    Also file systems don't have to be in the kernel. User space file systems are a thing and work fine.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    ??? Im not confusing those at all. You literally just repeated what i said.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    folders are a convenient organization strategy

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

    Indeed they are! Just don't need them in the filesystem itself