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Europe’s Greens ask Jill Stein to pull out of US election to prevent Trump victory (www.politico.eu)

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Green politicians from across Europe on Friday called on U.S. Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein to withdraw from the race for the White House and endorse Democrat Kamala Harris instead.

“We are clear that Kamala Harris is the only candidate who can block Donald Trump and his anti-democratic, authoritarian policies from the White House,” Green parties from countries including Germany, France, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Ireland, Estonia, Belgium, Spain, Poland and Ukraine said in a statement, which was shared with POLITICO ahead of publication

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Jill has a snowball's chance in hell of winning and if you think voting for her helps the "Arabs" you are wrong. It cancels out your voice because Jill is not a viable candidate. Your vote has been effectively split.

Your choices, like it or not, are Harris or Trump. So let's break this down since you seem to think a vote for Harris is worse than not voting.

Kamala Harris has prioritized a ceasefire in Gaza, advocating for Israel's right to respond to Hamas attacks while emphasizing civilian protection and addressing humanitarian needs. Harris’s approach focuses on a three-part plan for Gaza’s future: reconstruction, enhanced Palestinian Authority security, and governance reforms to stabilize the area post-conflict. Harris, however, does not support an arms embargo on Israel but has backed withholding specific weapons amid Israel’s military operations in Gaza. She views a two-state solution as a path toward long-term stability, but she stresses that immediate efforts should be humanitarian and diplomatic to prevent civilian harm and prepare for a sustainable resolution.

Donald Trump, in contrast, has heavily criticized ceasefire calls as limiting Israel’s ability to eliminate Hamas, framing his support as “unconditional” for Israel’s military objectives. Trump argues that his policies would have prevented the escalation of violence, asserting that Hamas’s attack on Israel would not have occurred if he were in office. While he has expressed skepticism about a two-state solution, Trump is more focused on empowering Israel to pursue military action without restriction. Trump has also suggested that his approach would involve exerting pressure on Israeli leadership if necessary to secure what he describes as a “final resolution” to the conflict, though specifics remain vague. Trump's campaign has used pro-Israel rhetoric to appeal to voters and has signaled a hardline stance against Hamas.

So, I am sure your voting for the lady who can't win as opposed to the lady who can win will help the "Arabs" you seem to care so much about. Good on you for picking a hill to die on though, I hope you like it because you and your people are about to die on it.

[+] [email protected] -11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Try not to tell me what my choices for president are, my ballot clearly listed them.

Harris / Waltz
Trump / Vance
Cornel West
Jill
Claudia

Now fun fact: my state is 30+ dem. I can vote for whoever I chose at 0 risk of trump getting those electoral votes. And I happily exercised that this election rather than vote for a candidate with is hostile to not only labor, but apparently is quite happy enabling a genocide.

Now if I was in a different state would I behave differently? absolutely. but I'm not, many people are in the same position as i am. harris lost my vote and I had 0 compelling reasons to give her a hand based on her words and deeds. She was a bad candidate in 2020, and shes a bad candidate today. try to focus on the issues that actually matter. my critters know why I handed jill the ticket.

If you want harris to win instead of trying to wow me with your inane rambling about my voting options spend your effort on getting harris to see reason before she blows it in 3 days.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Bless your heart, you have a good day now.

[+] [email protected] -11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

next time try not to be an asshole to people pushing for good changes and respect people have different options than you. but given your response, thats probably impossible for an asshole like yourself. bless your heart.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol, you can't counter bless your heart with bless your heart that's not how it works.

Just because I told you you were wrong does not make me an asshole or disrespectful of your opinion. Jill Stien is a vote splitter, that's the original point. No 3rd party candidate has any chance of winning in any state and a vote for one splits the vote. Your condescending response and personal attacks don't change that.

Look, I am just happy you are voting and if you hadn't been condescending I would have talked more with you about it. I wish I lived in a state where I could throw my vote away in a form of futile protest but I dont, and there is a lot we could continue to argue about that point, but you decided to call my thought-out rebuttal "inane rambling" and then prove my point by stating that if you didn't live in a solidly blue state you would feel differently. So instead of engaging further, I gave you a bless your heart and walked away.

I am bored though so here I am engaged in the most noble of futile endeavors arguing with stupid on the internet...Fun fact, that's me being an asshole.