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US elections: European Greens call for Jill Stein to step down (europeangreens.eu)

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Here's the problem: Trump is out to maximize environmental damage and the US Green Party runs as spoilers. Let's look at three scenarios:

Scenario 1:

Harris: 1001 votes

Trump: 1000 votes

Stein: 0 votes

Harris wins

Scenario 2:

Harris: 1000 votes

Trump: 1000 votes

Stein: 1 vote

Tied vote, which goes to the courts and Congress, putting Trump in power

Scenario 3:

Harris: 999 votes

Trump: 1000 votes

Stein: 2 votes

Trump wins outright

This spoiler effect makes it really imperative to actively vote for Harris if you want to see any kind of climate action going forward. Republicans know this, which is why they're the ones funding the Green Party.

And that's why the European Greens want Jill Stein to step down now — they get that what she's doing is making it easier to elect a fascist bent on environmental destruction.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I voted for blue in San Francisco and they reduced carbon emissions by 50% despite population growth of 12% and GDP growth of 226%.

I voted for blue in California and they invested $54 billion into transit.

I voted for blue in the US Government and they gave us the single greatest, most ambitious program addressing climate change in the history of the world.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

All the charts posted in this thread show that current emissions are pretty much as high as they were in 1990. The current government is fueling a war in gaza, in ukraine and yemen among other places. The US army is one of the biggest polluter in the world, instead of cutting military budget and operations the government is increasing these year by year, regardless of who is in power.

The "most ambitious program addressing climate change in the history of the world" still doesn't consider something as simple as banning private jets and yachts.

If you want any real change and reduce emissions significantly stop advocating for parties that for the past decades have created the crisis we are in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But Biden made some inappropriate remarks! Both sides are the same!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Look at the emission charts, both parties for the past decades haven't really do shit about climate. They have actually helped creating the crisis we are in by backing corporations and consumerism. Also look at what both parties are doing now.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/8/death-sentence-asbestos-released-by-israels-bombs-will-kill-generations

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Emissions are going down.