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It's harder to find (legal) downloadable music anymore too. 7Digital has been pretty alright for me, but I just stopped bothering with Spotify and Pandora and such. Youtube used to be great for discovery until they started mega cracking down on adblock again.
How often people are just getting rug-pulled left and right by streaming services is ridiculous.
Mind giving some insights on what rug is being pulled by Spotify? You pay them money to access their library and software. When you stop paying, you stop having access. If they raise their prices or remove features, you have the option of stopping your subscription and using an alternative method to listen to music.
Imo raising the prices and reducing the quality of the service you get is a rug pull. You get on board with a certain expectation and then slowly but steadily you get less for your money - rarely a big jump, so you usually just stay on board because, since the last time, your expectations have shifted.
I know I'm just explaining 2020s capitalism to you but the point is, the days of a real, swift rug pull are over; it's death by a thousand cuts now - and whichever one feels to you like a rug pull may as well be The One, because it's only going to get worse, if this one didn't piss you off enough to leave, the next one might.
I say this as a person with 200gb of mp3 & flac. I've never had a sub to any of these "services" - though I do have a huge crush on the people who run ibroadcast.
I'm just a little confused by this one because I've been a heavy user of Spotify since around 2011. I haven't had any loved features pulled out from under me recently so I was trying to figure out what the circle jerk in here was all about.
I had tens of thousands of MP3s before I got into Spotify. The user experience of Spotify is so good that I haven't even considered messing around with managing my own library in more than a decade. I even watched the private communities that were dedicated to sharing MP3 and FLAC disappear as most users just found it easier to use a music streaming service. 🤷♂️
Like I said, I've never actually used Spotify - I was just taking about subscription models generally. That person said how was it a rug pull off you saw it coming and while I can't speak to Spotify specially I can speak to the current state of rug pulls.
That's great that they worked for you, but there are a few songs I always used to search for when music services popped up - a few obscure things I like - and they didn't have them. I have broad tastes but they're almost all obscure.
You guys actually paying for Spotify?
No, I use ibroadcast, and they have an adequate free tier.
Spotify is easy to crack though, I enjoy free adless experience
That's fair. I wasn't particularly calling out Spotify but streaming services in general: They start super awesome to get users, with a vast library, reasonable prices....then it gets harder to find download media you can own because streaming is dominating...the prices go up...then the ads get more intrusive...then they start dropping large portions of their library because they don't feel like licensing it anymore, but prices still go up, the ads get longer, and so on.
That's what I consider the "rug pull". Provide an awesome service at a loss, get high stonk values, "Ok sorry guys we're public now, how is this gonna be profitable? :( Feel like watching ten minute ads? Ok cool. That's business, chump."