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Hezbollah is still very much restricting itself to attacking military bases (and Netanyahu's house).
Israeli soldiers however have decided that they can bomb every house in Lebanon and then go to sleep in their kibbutz instead of on a military base.
Yep, agreed.
Still not acceptable to use forced displacement as a weapon against civilians (also known as terrorism) and I will call it out whether Hezbollah does it or the IDF.
Lebanon does not recognize the existence of Israel. Every Israeli is illegally occupying all Palestinian territory.
Many Hezbollah members are Palestinians who were ethnically cleansed to Lebanon during the Nakba in 1948 and demand their land back.
An easy solution to this is for Israel to accept a two-state solution with the Palestinians according to mandated 1967 borders. This will earn Israel recognition and no longer classify them as illegal occupiers.
Whether Lebanon recognizes Israel or not has not much to do with the morals of displacing several communities. It's still wrong, just like killing Palestinians is wrong despite the lack of recognition for Palestine.
I am not opposed to the Palestinian cause. I myself am a Palestinian diaspora. So thanks for the history lesson for others to read but it's just repetition to me. Killing and forced displacement are still wrong, whether you like or or I like it or not and no matter under what cover it happens.
Palestinians getting their land back should never happen using yet another crime. What, Nakba 3 but this time for the Israelis? BS. There are middle ways.
That middle way is Israel accepting a peaceful two state solution right now. The Palestinians in Lebanon are the displaced fighting for their homes back.
Ethnic cleansing does not work as an argument for colonists actively fighting to expand further into Lebanon. It would be akin to claiming that forcing recent Russian colonists out of Crimea is ethnic cleansing.
But we are.talking about the population of the north -.- human beings, yeah? Is that acceptable to you as long as you do a colonial reading or something? Or is forced displacement still wrong?
When someone steals your house it is not "forced displacement" to take your house back. It is the opposite of forced displacement. The order of events is very important here.
Not in the least because the people who stole your old house are now using it as a base to launch military operations to steal your new house.
As stated before, Israel does not understand words. Many Palestinians have tried for decades. Israel is a terrorist state. They will never come to the negotiation table unless they are forced to it.
I agree, except I don't put blame on civilians. We are talking about the residents of the north of Israel who have lived there for many years, not mad settlers taking over a hill. They are civilian, not necessarily with any kind of agenda. Forcing them to leave their homes is forced displacement.
Israel is a terrorist state alright, absolutely, that's why I try to avoid becoming terrorists like them :)
Also I feel like Hezbollah issued those evacuation orders ironically, so I don't even think you really understand this... rather it appears to me like you are willing to defend Hezbollah no matter what they do (I'm a Hezbollah supporter BTW). Anyways, I don't think I'm in a position to judge you from a few internet conversations, but as a Palestinian I will say that the thought of "retaking" my home if it means living in someone else's apartment who would have been forced out just like my grandparents absolutely disgusts me.
Expelling the people who ethnically cleansed families from their house is not terrorism nor is it ethnic cleansing. It's called getting your stolen stuff back. Israel is using these civilian areas as military bases (as they do virtually everywhere).
Once again, Israel has absolutely no legal right to be there unless they accept the offer of the Palestinians for a two state solution. Only then will they come to legally own the land. The Palestinians have made an extremely generous offer by agreeing to the 1967 borders. All Israel has to do is take it. Before Israel loses its position of power and the Palestinians will no longer accept such a horrible deal.
There is no terrorism being committed by telling an illegal occupier they are required to leave your territory or face consequences.
Honestly I always dreamt of a one state solution where it's one democratic Palestine where Palestinians and former-Israelis could live together :) maybe one day.
Still forced displacement of a civilian population is absolutely wrong and terrorism but of course it gets easier to accept if you wrap it in some political excuse or the other. Just like Israel did.
It is obvious you are not personally affected by the crimes committed by Israel.
It is obvious you actually don't know me. I am indeed personally affected by it given how both my grandparents were in the Nakba, I'm a registered refugee with the right to return at the UN, and every day of my life has simply been worsened by the forced displacement and poverty and death my own family had to go through. Have a nice day.