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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You are correct. There is more that i can and need to do. That still does not make it good to use honey.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey no wait you're supposed to throw your hands in the air and just eat industrially farmed animal corpses because there are also negative outcomes of vegetable production so obviously the two are completely equivalent

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nice strawman, strawberry. The point is that avoiding honey to reduce possible harm is vain at best.

But since you want to talk about meat, I'm curious about your opinion of hunting.

Do you know how animals die in the wild? The lucky ones get hit by a car and die instantly. The rest die from disease and starvation, both agonizing slow deaths, or they are literally eaten alive by predators.

If the aim of veganism is to reduce animal suffering, surely you would support ethical hunting, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

the goal of veganism is to reduce animal exploitation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you avoid all sugar products, or just honey?

Sugar growing also kills animals. You cannot avoid all harm, so why discount honey for the harm you know, but not discounting harm from growing sugar?

Reducing harm, sure, but it seems selective to discount honey for small amount of harm, when other things you (assumed) eat do equal (potentially unknown to you) harm.

Do you need to know every process of growing/transporting something to eat it? Or does you list of edible products shrink as you learn every new form of harm?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

The list of edible products shrink as I learn of new harm. As a modern human, I am addicted to sugar, but I do need to make more of an effort to use less of it, as well as lessen the impact of what I do use.