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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I've always wondered if vegetables from a farm that uses horse-drawn tills instead of tractors would be vegan... It's a real question, but everyone I ask thinks that I'm trolling.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Or animal manure, or pesticides

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I'd say no because horses can't consent to being used for this. Horse riding is generally not considered vegan either

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Each vegan will have their own answer. If you are truly curious, and a vegan is sharing their mindset with you, ask them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Here's my weird question: if faux leather is plastic and someone is vegan for environmental reasons, would leather be preferable? What if it's a byproduct and would otherwise be trashed? These are things I think about as someone who tries to reduce my impact on the environment as much as I feasibly can in a capitalist society.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Depends on the faux leather. There absolutely are alternatives to leather that are less environmentally taxing than leather. Leather needs to be cured, for example, and the entire leather production process is very water-intensive and involves a lot of nasty chemicals. So apart from using a dead animal's skin to wear, it's also abysmal for the environment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

You're right about the leather processing. I didn't consider that.

I heard there's a new mushroom-based leather alternative that will hopefully get traction.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago

If insects are animals then are vegans getting all of their food from 100% organic gardens that grow in a cooperative manner?