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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago (17 children)

The Chinese government has been acting to restrict travel outside the country by ordering some teachers, civil servants and executives of state-owned enterprises to hand in their passports.

...and...

Hong said the CCP is also worried that as people's confidence in the economy slows, they will become less loyal to Xi's regime and China’s system, and that personnel and capital will flee the country.

Won't this action by the CCP actually accelerate the rate at which people leave? If they currently have a passport and are seeing people they know get their passports seized, those still with passports might choose to leave now while they still can even if they hadn't considered it before.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Because of the language barrier, people typically needs years of preparation to leave the country. Imagine finding a H1B job with zero connection in the U.S. and subpar English, that is literally impossible.

Even said person are willing to pay the high tuition fee in U.S. or Europe, it would take a Chinese at least a year of intense language learning to achieve reasonable fluency in a language, that is acceptable in universities.

Not to mention, leaving China also means leaving everything they know behind, friends, family, way of life, and especially money, like the other post suggests.

In fact, confiscating public workers' passport has been practiced for at least a decade; partly for control, partly for security. And that did not spark mass exodus, slightly expanding the program likely will not change much as well.

Finally, most people in China choose public work for job security, hence they are usually averse to change. These crowds are the least likely to react to policies like this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

English was mandatory in primary school for decades. It is only very recently that may not be true, but every single Chinese person with a university degree is at least proficient in English.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Because of the language barrier, people typically needs years of preparation to leave the country.

English is being taught as early as Kindergarten in China. source

"English is a required subject in China, and most students are taught their first lesson in the third grade, while others even start during kindergarten. Most reputable jobs ask for proof of English proficiency. A college English test certificate is acceptable."

So I would imagine most folks considering this aren't starting from zero with English skills.

Imagine finding a H1B job with zero connection in the U.S. and subpar English, that is literally impossible.

While the USA is a place many aspire to emigrate to, its not nearly the only country in the world. Here's a slightly older statistic:

"This statistic shows the number of immigrants from China into Canada from 2007 to 2017. In 2017, Canada received approximately 30 thousand immigrants from China, over 3,000 people more than in the previous year."

source

Not to mention, leaving China also means leaving everything they know behind, friends, family, way of life, and especially money, like the other post suggests.

Besides the money point, this is true of any emigration, yet millions do it from countries around the world. I'm in the USA, but if I saw the United States government revoking passports of its citizens arbitrarily I'd start considering emigrating myself. So far the only reason (besides actual crimes) is revocation for large sums of unpaid taxes, and even that list of people is pretty small.

In fact, confiscating public workers’ passport has been practiced for at least a decade; partly for control, partly for security. And that did not spark mass exodus, slightly expanding the program likely will not change much as well.

Citation needed. Are you saying the CCP has been revoking passports at this new scale and against the same targets for the same reasons for at least a decade?

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