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“U.S. troops being deployed to Israel in this matter is seismic,” Malekafzali added. “The U.S. military is now inextricably involved in this war, directly, without any illusions of barriers. Netanyahu is as close as he has ever been to his ultimate wish: making the U.S. fight Iran on Israel’s behalf.”

Israel’s cabinet met Thursday to discuss a potential response to Iran’s October 1 missile barrage. One unnamed Israeli source told The Times of Israel that “no big decisions” were made at the cabinet meeting. Speaking to reporters earlier this month, Biden said that U.S. and Israeli officials were “discussing” the possibility of an attack on Iranian oil infrastructure.

Iran has warned of a “crushing” response to any Israeli attack.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There is nothing bad faith in my arguments. I am sincere in saying that I disagree with sending troops over there and in saying that I don't see it as a massive escalation to send 100 troops when we already have 50,000 in theater.

You are arguing in bad faith by ignoring what I am saying and simply labeling any disagreement as "obvious propaganda". Nothing here is black and white. This conflict has been going on for generations. Any immediate response has generations of previous actions behind it. To say otherwise is disingenuous.

Nothing in this conflict is simple. Nothing is clear. Nothing is black and white. Maybe labeling me as a propagandist for disagreeing on one specific thing while agreeing with your broader stance shows who the real propagandist is.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

100 infantry on the frontline is a lot riskier than support personal on an aircraft carrier nearby.

In a ballistic missle exchange, air defense is the front line.There is literally a term for it: SEAD

Any THAAD system will be a target when Iran responds to whatever lunacy Bibi concocts. And, as THAAD systems have to be operated by American military personal, that will mean that American military personal will die by a legitimate military action by Iran.

Seriously, I don't know how this isn't clear.

You apparently don't understand the meaning of the phase 'bad faith'. Not that it would matter, as I'm literally responding to your points. You just don't like them, so you ignore them.

The country of Israel is younger than my still living father. To imply otherwise is to ignore all recent history, and the terrorism that was allowed to create the modern state of Israel. A nation, I might add, that has little to do with the indigenous populations. This bullshit of generations is either bad faith attempts at propaganda, or ignorance bordering on criminal. My father is older than this country.

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This is the literal reason I called your statements propaganda. I'm quoting them here since you seemed to miss it the first time, and ignored the point.

Time is linear. Ignoring the rogue state actions that the Iranian RESPONSE was a response to is such a bad faith action it has to be propaganda. You can make anyone look good, if you pick the right starting place to tell a story. Not recognizing that that is a classic propaganda strategy is a education problem for you