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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (16 children)

As someone that made enough money to make a freelance career from moving people off of awful WordPress sites, WP's reputation has been in the toilet for a decade, easily. The CMS market has been strong for a long time, and there are countless better options out there.

With the push towards API backends and static sites, WP should have died years ago. I still cannot believe it's so popular.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Which other options would you recommend?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (12 children)

If you want a standard CMS, you can't really go wrong with Umbraco. Some people are turned off by .NET, but for developer experience alone it's the best I've ever worked with.

There are many good choices, if you're looking for something more lightweight. Kirby, IndieKit, Concrete5, even Ghost are all solid. I also remember hearing about ClassicPress a while back, that was a fork of WP made during some technical and business decisions that some in the community didn't agree with - never used it though, and it's a fork of a time when the WP codebase was a joke.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I notice you didn't mention Drupal or Joomla, and last time I did any webdev (11 years ago as an intern) it seemed like those were some of the big ones (though my perspective was probably very limited back then). Are they no good, have they fallen out of favour?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I actually used Drupal a year ago, so it's definitely still around! Joomla isn't a name I've heard for a while though. To be fair, I mostly work in AI now, so I'm removed from the web dev world also.

I think flat file and API based CMS's have become more popular now, especially with many people questioning why so many CMS's were built on relational data stores for largely non-relational data. For many, the ability to drop a CMS in and have it "just work" is why some of the newer ones are growing in popularity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Drupal scales well and is very extensible with features that allow complicated permissions systems, etc. I have built some complicated courseware with it, and big document archives, etc. It has a skilled developer community. I wouldn't use it for small inexpensive sites, but it's top tier and free/liberated.

Joomla's code a decade ago was so inefficient and clunky to work with I could never recommend it, my main interaction with it was troubleshooting and helping folks escape it. Maybe it's improved.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Who membas phpnuke

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I can recommend Grav as a flatfile CMS for those use-cases where the site is 90% static, the customer just wants to get able to sometimes update some of the content.

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