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[โ€“] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This article is incredibly dumb. What's the alternative, they don't try to defend their country from being invaded? We've already seen all the genocidal actions Russia has done with the towns they've taken over, the mass graves and all that.

If needed, Ukraine will and should fight to the last person. Hopefully it doesn't come to that though. They need to be supported so it doesn't come to that.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The alternative was to sign a peace agreement back in March last year before Ukraine lost all its territory. The fact that you think Ukraine fighting to the last person is preferable to Ukraine having declared neutrality and abandoned its NATO ambitions shows what an piece of human garbage you truly are. As Stoltenberg has now admitted, the war is happening because of NATO expansion

Then lastly on Sweden. First of all, it is historic that now Finland is member of the Alliance. And we have to remember the background. The background was that President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what he sent us. And was a pre-condition for not invade Ukraine. Of course we didn't sign that.

The opposite happened. He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that.

The west is cynically using Ukraine to fight a proxy war with Russia, and scum like you are facilitating this. Hundreds of thousands of people are dying because of deplorable human garbage such as yourself. If you want this war to keep going, why don't you go sign up for the foreign legion instead of cheering for other people to die you piece of shit.