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Ok so, here I am again asking another question ๐Ÿ™ˆ๐Ÿ™Š But hear me out: I read this post here about, if there even is a good privacy messenger that can be trusted. Someone in the comments mentioned Conversations (a XMPP client for Android). This made me look into XMPP and at the moment I am giving Conversations a try. Reading into XMPP, I couldn't find a problem security or privacy wise. Also it seems like it does not matter what server I use (atm. we are on 07f.de) since it is all e2e with OMEMO. Am I missing something or is it really this good? And if I dont trust anyone, I could host my one instance of ejabberd, right?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

its really really save

Edit: sorry I misread it as XMR.

XMPP can be very unsafe. It depends on the client you use. Its best to use a protocol that doesn't allow unencrypted messages to be sent at all. Like Wire or Signal.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Kinda depends on your threat model too, like if you don't want your traffic going through the US signal is gonna be a big no no.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Its best to use a protocol that doesn't allow unencrypted messages

This is an implementation thing and not a protocol thing. What protocol doesn't allow unencrypted messages? I am sure signal's protocol would still allow it, it's just that the implementation doesn't.

And same for XMPP. Just go with the implementation that doesn't.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Simplex.chat is the current best one AFAIK

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago