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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 month ago (4 children)

As someone who consumes a lot of ancient history, it can also make you like “Ah yes, another city rises, another is displaced by climate disaster, and another falls due to land mismanagement. ‘Tis the way of things.”

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Nonsense, I look on Ozymandias, king of kings' works daily and despair!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was literally thinking about this poem moments ago.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

It's one of the greats.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It's true. I wonder how many ancient Babylonians, Greeks, Chinese, Egyptians, Persians, Romans thought:

"Surely, this empire will last forever! Look upon our works, ye mighty, and despair!" (EDIT: LOL It appears we're all of one mind remembering this poem. We must be doing something right. XD)

Especially in modern times it's insanely difficult to imagine the geopolitics shifting drastically, but it's happened before, it's happening now. The difference being that the rest of the globe is now much more invested in your shenanigans with your neighbors, but it's still happening.

What does one do amidst a regime change?

I'm glad I've never had to seriously consider it until now. ...but it unnerves me that I probably need to start.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

You forgot an important difference between ancient history and now. Now, when the empire falls it has the power to take the biosphere with it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

how does one consume ancient history? do you eat the source documents?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s unrealistic— some of them are etched into stone

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

You need some papurus dust to sprinkle on those, like a lick-a-stick.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Civilizations of a heirarchal centralized type definitely feel like temporary abberations, after reading Graeber and Wengrow