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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It isn’t so much that the mountains flooded.

They’ve flooded before.

It’s how badly they’ve flooded. We may mot ge getting extra storms from climate change, but it certainly can make the existing storms worse.

IMO that’s what we’re seeing more of. From straight line winds being more damaging, to storm systems that might only have a couple tornados to now having a dozen.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yup, also south Georgia historically gets missed by most hurricanes. Now that area has been hit by two in a matter of weeks. These are not coastal areas but 100+miles from the coast.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, everyone I was talking to about it was very confused why I was worried about a hurricane at my location.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But also we are getting extra storms? The average number of storms per season is up

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's kinda the same thing tho. The entire scale gets moved up, because there is more energy available in the atmosphere and water to form and power storms. So when all the storms get more powerful, you get more hurricanes, because in the past those would not have grown big enough to be classified as such. Small local storms can more easily grow to become larger, having a bigger impact. And wind patterns can change as well, so it's very complex and hard to predict. The one thing we know for sure: it's bad news.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Except scientists have been predicting that they will happen, with increasing frequency from now onwards. Ignoring those predictions isn't the same as them not existing. Those predictions may not say like "May 11, 2025 a mudslide will go down this specific hill", but even lacking precision they are proving fairly accurate (especially "the climate is currently changing" and "as that process occurs, both the frequency and severity of dangerous storms will increase").

Tbf, the for-profit media only sells stories that make the most profits, not what would be most beneficial for people to be made aware of. And while the latter used to be done by the government, now that "facts" themselves are "political", it is hamstrung in that regard, especially held hostage by the budgetary fights. And with the two most official sources of factual information delivery having been coopted, we now have left behind the information age and have already entered the era of misinformation, or dare we say even disinformation, especially for people who get their "news" from Facebook.

On the bright side, the more stuff that happens, the easier it gets to predict. In the meantime, a lot of people are going to not merely lose some money but actually and fully die, maybe after seeing their entire families die before their eyes. And as it happens they will be shocked, Shocked I say, SHOCKED! Again, just as happened before with covid as well, and as also happens to each individual woman who has a miscarriage or such and needs a medically necessary abortion, but only when it is far too late to do anything about it - i.e. to fly or drive hundreds of miles to another state and live there for the duration of the pregnancy - finds out that yes those laws apply to her as well (surely she thinks to herself, "b-b-but this isn't an abortion, it's necessary!?" To which the doctors can only think to themselves "ikr!?!?!? if only 'facts' mattered, you know!?"), and this in areas that are at least well-off enough to not have healthcare deserts that won't even handle regular pregnancies.

The one thing we know for sure: it’s bad news.

You made some very good points and I hope you don't think I'm picking on you, I just thought these additional considerations seemed highly relevant. Lastly I guess I'm disagreeing with the final point: no, we cannot even all agree that it's bad news, when the budget affecting literally all of us is held hostage by people who are still adamant about it not being allowed to be considered that it is happening at all. So yes, it is bad news, but the obstinacy surrounding that bodes far worse for us all than each individual incident could ever be.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

They also aren't flood plains though. Which is where it's a problem. Anywhere can flood with enough rain. That doesn't mean the area is prone to flooding on a seasonal basis.