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Three individuals targeted National Gallery paintings an hour after Phoebe Plummer and Anna Holland were jailed for similar attack in 2022

Climate activists have thrown tomato soup over two Sunflowers paintings by Vincent van Gogh, just an hour after two others were jailed for a similar protest action in 2022.

Three supporters of Just Stop Oil walked into the National Gallery in London, where an exhibition of Van Gogh’s collected works is on display, at 2.30pm on Friday afternoon, and threw Heinz soup over Sunflowers 1889 and Sunflowers 1888.

The latter was the same work targeted by Phoebe Plummer and Anna Holland in 2022. That pair are now among 25 supporters of Just Stop Oil in jail for climate protests.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Slapping oil CEOs in the face would be much more relevant, and not be targeting irreplaceable cultural artifacts.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

irreplaceable cultural artifacts

I mean it won't be exactly the same, but I'm pretty sure they can buy more of that plexiglass that got soup'd. Calling plexiglass a cultural artifact feels like a bit of a stretch, but I do think it's replaceable.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Just so we're on the same page here, would this act have been acceptable to you or unacceptable if the painting had actually been damaged?

Frame of paintings like that isn't simply replaceable, by the way, it's also an artifact that's generations old. It's just less important than the painting itself.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you condemn the suffragettes?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Only the ones who tried to damage priceless historical artifacts for attention?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's a yes then, because damaging (actually damaging, not just getting plexiglass wet) was one of their major tactics. It got to the point where museum owners considered denying entry to all women

https://www.npg.org.uk/whatson/firstworldwarcentenary/explore/gallery-stories/suffragette-action

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That’s a yes then

I am well-aware that Suffragists used this tactic as well, hence

Only the ones who tried to damage priceless historical artifacts for attention?

Or is your argument that the Suffragists were successful, therefore, every one of their tactics was wise?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Depends on your definition of 'damage' - if a drop of soup gets under the plexiglass, I'm not clutching any pearls. If the paintings were completely destroyed, I would not be supportive.

That said its a moot point because these headline grabbing demonstrations have been nondestructive. Stonehenge is fine. The sunflowers will continue to be sunflowery.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Slapping a CEO in the face is assault. That's a serious offense in most countries, and it would be extremely easy to get sent to jail for years.

Throwing soup at a painting that's behind Plexiglas is, at most, disturbing the peace and vandalizing a museum's floor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Assault on an oil exec... I don't see anything morally wrong here. It's also straight to the point, rather than attacking art.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Morally, perhaps not. But legally yes, justified crimes are still crimes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

You're welcome to work on that plan.