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Climate Change Is So Bad, Even the Arctic Is On Fire | From Siberia to Brazil, wildfires are moving underground and burning up massive carbon deposits. The resulting emissions worsen global warming (www.bloomberg.com)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They won't, but talking with your neighbors, building consensus, and changing the rules of society might.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes. The answer I expect. Has it worked until now?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

It's still in the "concept of a plan" phase

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Politics tends to not work and not work and suddenly work once you have sufficient power.

In the US:

There were occasional quiet warnings of the problem to politicians starting in the 1950s.
In the 1980s we got to the point of being able to get testimony in front of congress, but didn't have a single vote for action
In the 1990s, we had only a handful of politicians who would be willing to vote for any kind of meaningful action
In the 2000s we had legislation pass the house, but die in Senate because there were only ~40/100 votes in favor there
In 2021 we actually got carrots-only legislation passed into law

We're not where we need to be yet, but it's clear that you can actually get something that way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I'm not American myself. But have you watched the movie "don't look up" ? It's about a huge world wide threat, in the form of a comet, that will kill everyone. Politics (in an absurdist way) make it impossible to do something against the threat.

It's a worldwide problem. People actively lobbying against climate laws are criminals and should be treated like it. People need to be educated and activated to fight it. That hasn't happened yet. The damage is done.

You see. Temperature and climate aren't the things that'll kill us. We can adapt to almost anything as long as we agree to do it together. Even if its not "economically viable". We have reached space and built towers higher than the clouds, for crying out loud.

But ecosystems in general will not adapt, at all. So realise that, if we succeed to change the course of this climate change, the ecosystems that are collapsing already will not magically fix themselves. In fact, they'll still probably collapse. We are part of these systems too.

I would love to be positive about the small victories, but we are going to see some very hard to process changes in the coming years. It will get worse before anything will get better.