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[–] [email protected] 69 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

She is right, using 0 index for physical stuff is stupid.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Your rulers start at 1? That sounds annoying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Rulers measure cardinal quantities and not ordinal ones. There is no cardinal numbering scheme that starts at 1, all of them "start" at 0. For ordinal numbering schemes, the symbols are arbitrary anyway and you can start with whatever you want. It's equally valid to start with 1, 0, -1, A, or "aardvark". The only benefit to picking 1 as the start is to make it easier to count with your fingers while picking 0 lets you easily convert an ordinal quantity to a cardinal one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Your job is to move apples from one bin to another. You pick up the first one and set it in the other bin, and say "zero."?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

There's another way to think about it which I actually use. Look in the empty bin and say "zero", then move an apple and say "one".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I've seen a lot of rulers that actually don't have a mark at 0 and instead go right to the edge as 0. Typically they are worn down, being made of wood, so the accuracy of the first inch is dubious. To ensure the distance is correct, sliding the ruler down one unit is a good idea. So, my ruler starts at 0 but my measurements start at 1.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That's why decent rulers have a 0 and a margin:

plastic ruler starting at 0 cm

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

It really depends on what you're measuring. Good luck measuring the distance from a corner if you can't get 0 to touch the end.

Tape measures are almost always designed with this in mind, so you can hook the end over an edge, or butt it up against something and the measurement will be accurate both ways, since the metal end can slide in or out by just the right amount.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

since the metal end can slide in or out by just the right amount.

OMG! I genuinely thought all the tape measures I have handled were a little broken.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Just shave down the rulers margin!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 hours ago

Not on this side of the pond. We typically don't have a ground floor, that's just the first floor.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

i wish the people making buildings around here knew that. some start at floor 3, others at 5. some start at 0. others at 2. every building has its own story. you need to understand the building before you can understand your position in it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

if a building is built into a hillside in the uk and has exits on floors 2 and 5, which would be the ground floor?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

My intuition would be floor 2, as it is the lowest floor to the ground that isn't underground

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

it’s floor 5 from monday to wednesday, and floor 2 from thursday to sunday

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

Why? It seems exactly as valid to me, and more valid if you like positional numberings of your physical stuff.

You just count the number of times you departed from an item in order, rather than the times you arrived.