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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (4 children)

So if I understand correctly, Israel managed to get a bunch of people in Hezbollah to use pagers and walkie talkies that contained bombs. But they have not been able to gather enough intelligence from control of those communication devices to find and rescue the remaining hostages? And if they weren’t able to catch useful information from those devices, why did the people holding those devices deserve to get blown up?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hezbollah operates out of Lebanon, and the hostages are in Gaza? They have nothing to do with each other…

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Thanks. I honestly haven’t been following it all closely. (I guess that’s obvious from my last comment). But why blow up a bunch of people in Lebanon?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

This might help to clarify.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Because tensions between Hezbollah and Israel have been steadily rising since October 7th because of Hzebollah's objection to how Israel is acting in Gaza. To be clear, prior to October 7th, tensions were already high enough that they would regularly lob bombs at each other. Today's "escalated" tensions include northern Israel being evacuated due to threats from Hezbolla's rocket attacks.

At this point, it is clear that the options available to Israel are to either withdraw from Gaza and hope Hezbolla stands down, or end up in a full war with Hezbolla. Historians will say that the war with Hezbolla started months ago, and this was just one attack among many.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You are forgetting one simple fact. They don’t care about the hostages.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Oh, they definitely do, in their own way.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The hostages are in Gaza, not Lebanon. If Israel had this level of infiltration with Hamas, it is unlikely this would've started in the first place

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago

If only the nazis had infiltrated the warsaw ghetto... \s \s \s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So if I understand correctly, Israel managed to get a bunch of people in Hezbollah to use pagers and walkie talkies that contained bombs.

Think about it like, there's one person who was able to tell the perpetrators of this that a big order of communication devices is being made.

Perpetrators are clearly sophisticated so it's fair to assume they can throw some skilled team at it.

This attack could be years in the making.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

From a spy craft and capabilities standpoint it’s an amazing attack. I’m skeptical that using the devices as bombs is more useful than using them for spying, but who knows? It is super fucked up that random people who happen to be near the targets could be hurt. But between that and the stuxnet attack, it’s safe to say that Israel is capable of crazy sophisticated attacks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Except they barely knew what they were doing with stuxnet too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I heard 5 months, forgot where from.