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Interesting. Counterpoint, anon's a dick for manipulating people like that.
Counter to what? That is the point.
Arguing a 4chan post was actually not just brain dead ramblings of a pathological liar was your first mistake
Exactly
Everyone's a dick in that situation (but mostly him).
You’re just out right wrong
So he should exploit women?
Get ahold of yoourself.
Yeah that’s clearly what I mean lmao.
You just said every person in this scenario was in the wrong, which would include the woman who did literally nothing wrong
You get ahold of yourself and learn how to communicate better.
I wouldn't call them "a dick" but women flocking to the most ridiculously attractive men and only to those men is kind of fucked up.
Why though? Are men entitled to women in some way?
Why do you people always start with that? I don't understand. It's the weirdest talking point. Why would you think "men are entitled to women" is a thing I'm suggesting?
I've heard that enough times that it's clearly a common theme in sjw circles but I've never understood where it comes from.
Why is it "fucked up" when women "flock" to attractive men?
Other people have called the fact some women only want rich and/or attractive men a reason for them being bad human beings. Or called the behaviour a problem.
I can't see another reason for thinking this way unless you believe men are somehow entitled to women.
It's problematic for society. When one woman does it, well, it's just one woman, who cares. But when the majority of women do it? It contributes to the whole male lonileness epidemic. It's not fair, which again is easy to ignore on an individual level but when you scale it up to all of society, it promotes a pretty fucked up dynamic.
I guess you could say I think men should be entitled to a fair shot, not necessarily entitled to women. Or at the very least we could make a society that acknowledges the current dynamic and provides some level of emotional support for the less attractive men, instead of just pretending everything is fair and dandy and if your can't get a girl you just gotta try harder.
Did you know that the most lonely group are older women? Especially when it comes to relationships. Do you see them whine and demand men to go on dates with them?
Women aren't responsible to be the whole social life of men. Care for your own social life and you won't be lonely. It is not only romantic/sexual relationships that fulfills that need.
I am also interested in what you are proposing in practicality to happen? Women should date men they aren't attracted to because otherwise these men are lonely? It doesn't get more entitled than that.
Completely untrue for the majority of people. It's only a small subsect of ace people who have no need for romantic relationships. The vast majority people need them in order to feel fulfilled.
And the problem is that, statistically, many men will be lonely.
I'm not sure about a solution...aside from entitled, getting women to date men they're not attracted to is simply practically impossible. As a band-aid though, and maybe a step towards a true solution, I think we as a society should be able to acknowledge that this is a societal problem and have some level of respect and support for the men it affects. Not just "get better and women will like you lol loser". Not get immediately screamed at for being an incel just because you bring it up.
All the time, actually. I am friends with a group of single women in their 50s and 60s and they do complain about this exact issue all the time. Except no men can meet their standards, which circles us back to the original point.
Your mindset is completely warped. Sorry, seek therapy. And stop reading manosphere stuff online.
You’re making all kinds of assumptions that aren’t even mentioned in the story.
It was one lady who supposedly responded to recent rejection by sitting at the bar with anon whose appearance isn’t even bothered to be mentioned.
Taking a green text seriously as objective fact of what actually happened is probably a waste of time fam
P.s. your comment smells reeeeally bad like incel talk because of all the mopping and generalizing of women’s behavior.
Given a diverse system, the likelihood that you commingle with the popular choice becomes less and less as the popular choice becomes less and less popular.
Might be worth pursuing the life of a stoic if you’re disliking your current “flavor” of “cave”
I see someone just took philosophy 101 lol
It's a heck of a stretch to relate Plato's Cave to this conversation, it's so obvious you just recently learned about it and it blew your mind and you've been DYING to bring it up
It's a known and quantified thing that happens independent of the story, and is likely the impetus for the (probably fake) story.
Good luck out there kid
Shh don’t question the status quo bro. You don’t wanna do that bro.
Definitely don’t bring up how men doing this is traditionally seen as manipulative immediately but when anyone other than cis males do it, it’s just a silly little play ha ha he he ho ho
I'm gonna question the status quo, bro. I definitely wanna do that, bro.
Don’t do it bro! You don’t want that smoke bro!