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There are multiple people just in this post alone advising people to vote in local and primary elections. What are you talking about?
"Advising people to vote in" is not the same as "caring about" or "paying attention to."
Is there any mention of specific candidates? Any passionate arguments over the details of specific races? Any discussion of political theory or historical precedent or anything like that in that context? Has anybody called someone a Nazi because of how they're voting for down ballot?
No. Because what people care about and pay attention to is the presidential race, unless you're some kind of weird nerd or responsible citizen or something.
"no one talks about X".
Is shown that many people talk about X.
"No, not like that!"
Misinterprets what I said to create a strawman
Is explained to that that's not what was meant
Repeats strawman.
Thank you for explaining what you're doing. But we were well aware of it.
"I know you are but what am I?"
Highest level of discourse.
You're the one coming in here and asking why anyone cares who wins an election that's not even in your country.
You can rightly fuck off. Most of us care very deeply who wins.
Not surprised you and the other people downplaying the election are from .ml
It is in my country lol. Just because I don't get to meaningfully vote in it doesn't mean I don't live here.
Keep pushing bullshit, ml
Tell you what, if Illinois goes red this election, DM me and I'll send you $200.
Ok cool. And if random thing does random result you'll owe me $200, too.
No.
By the way, quick question, would you say that you don't like me based on who I'm voting for in the presidential election, regardless of how I vote down ballot? Because it kinda seems like you're proving my point here.
That's exactly what everyone has thought about your opinions.
I'm rubber, you're glue, what you say bounces off me and sticks to you.
If that's the level of discourse you operate at, I can join you there, I guess.
If you weren't such a transparent .ml troll maybe someone would engage you. But we all know who you are, especially from your comments here today.
Throwing around a bunch of playground insults and then accusing me of being the troll is a good bit, 7/10.
🙄
Good talk, very high level and productive. You've really given me a lot to think about.
Considering you're a .ml troll, I doubt you spent that long on the whole "think about" part.
Do me a favor and tell the middle school kid who's giving you all your quips that if he keeps trying, he'll get there eventually.
I actually like that one, good job.
Doesn't change anything about you being a .ml troll, though. You're not fooling anyone.
Trolling is when someone disagrees with you for any reason.
Or an entire instance always has the same bad takes and defends it no matter what in posts they shouldn't be in.
That's very true, but none of the people who have replied to me are from .world so I don't see how that's relevant.
Herr durr
Are you telling me that you consider "no u" to be too low of a form of discourse for you? You were all about it earlier, what happened?
Your an idiot. I'm done talking to you. Better luck with your future troll attempts.
*You're
How active is your local Lemmy community? Mines is pretty dead but voting for the specifics you call for is still mentioned.
Of course people aren't going to be discussing the specifics of local races in the general politics community. It's entirely disingenuous to argue that's an indicator that nobody cares about local races.
I don't agree that that's an "of course." There should be discussion of specific local races in a general politics community. Like I said, presidential votes only matter in a handful of states. If you add up the populations of swing states, I'm sure it's higher than any individual state, but there are still some pretty big states where millions of people live that that aren't included in that. And yeah, everyone is affected by the presidential race, but everyone is affected by congressional races too. If you want to say, let's say 90% of the content should be on the race that's relevant to people living in Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin, and maybe North Carolina that's fine, but if the rest of us have to see their content all the time, then they shouldn't mind if they have to see like 10% of the content relevant to the people who live in some of the other 44 states.
And to be clear, this isn't something I'm saying about Lemmy in particular. Go anywhere in America, from the deepest red state to the deepest blue state, and ask about the latest story-of-the-week about the presidential race, and people will know about it and have an opinion on it and care about it. Ask them about local races, and they'll be far less knowledgeable far less invested, and will probably try to fit it into a framework based on the one race they actually care about, even if they can't affect it in any way.
There would be so much more potential to cut through battle lines if people would go like, "OK, fine, you don't like either candidate, you don't have to vote for them. But do you mind if I ask what state you live in? Maybe there's someone running for congress or governor who's more to your tastes. I'd be happy to look into who's running and discuss them with you."
But nobody wants that shit. We want the battle lines, we want the group identity, the team sports. We don't want to do research about boring shit nobody cares about, we want a constant stream of engaging news stories and hot takes that we can all experience together, as a culture.
I shill voting 3p at every level as tactic to clown the two party regime.
But nothing stops people from getting into the weeds in local elections though.
But yeah the whole vibe... If you don't want my guy, you lack empathy OR you just don't care about hurting people is very 🤡 approach to essentially shame people into compliance.
The shaming campaign from the DNC has been very strong recently.
This entire discussion is only happening BC it was posted in a sub that is not controlled by the group who runs news and politics subs on Lemmy world