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I personally don't like this "one site bad" thing(in this conflict at least). Of course, in terms of killed persons Israel is the bad guy, but also the things the Hamas did are pretty fucked up. I personally came to the conclusion that both sides are bad, Israel is allowed to defense itself against this brutality but shouldn't take the opportunity to absolutely fuck Palestine again(what it sadly does). I'm not for Israel or Palestine. I'm for the civilists and human rights.
You have to look at it in terms of power dynamics though. Israel is a uS backed settler colonial apartheid regime that propped up Hamas because they would rather face Islamic fundamentalists then socialist opposition. They're either directly or indirectly responsible for all of the violence.
Only one side could hypothetically end the violence tomorrow.
Hamas having hostages isn't stopping Israel bombing hospitals and cutting off food, water, and electricity to the region. If it doesn't stop them from escalating violence why do you think it is preventing them from making concessions and ending the violence?
Here is just one strike, that basically killed half a thousand people https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/10/gaza-un-experts-decry-bombing-hospitals-and-schools-crimes-against-humanity
Israel literally warned they'd bomb the hospital twice before it was bombed, but sure.
Love to deny the crimes of an apartheid state
The fact that you believe it was hamas despite the fact that Israel said they'd bomb it twice and then it was bombed is sad. Israel has habitually bombed Gazan civilian infrastructure, hamas hasn't. And now all of a sudden Hamas has the weapons to blow up their own side's hospital when they've basically been shooting glorified bottle rockets at Israel? Sure.
Jesus do you realize how foolish you sound? Jesus you must be insufferable in real life for how ardent you are about something you are completely wrong about.
I'm not going to stoop to making ableist insults though.
Even your rhetoric admits you know you are wrong. You claim Israel didn't do it, in the next breath you say "But the damage wasn't that severe" because you know Israel did it and want to minimize it. 470 people died, hundreds are buried under rubble.
There is no way you are this dense. Again I already said it was on livestream. Everyone saw it. I’m so tired of your kind. You just lie through your teeth without even checking to see if you are saying literally anything true. What a complete knob. Do yourself a favor and actually look up what happened.
Holy fuck I refuse to believe you are real. You are actually just trolling me.
You dronies are something else. Notice how you cannot even argue with facts. You just keep pushing lies and lies without having to verify any of your claims.
Oh look more ableism. How liberal.
Ah man I can't repeat that back, you've incorporated ableism into the foundation of the comment :(
So do you want your temp ban recorded as ableism, McCarthyism, or Zionism? Or should I just put down all three? It'll only be for a half month because I don't want to show anti-favoritism, usually it would be 30-60 days
Okay, I'll add misogyny too. What a major loss.
Oh god, ridicule from a misinformed zionist dronie. How will I maintain my self esteem? I have no choice but to abandon my ideology that I've spent thousands of hours developing through independent reading and book clubs because someone on the internet who supports an apartheid regime keeps calling me what they consider acceptable alternatives to the R-slur
As opposed to you, you have your eyes wide open without reading real political theory, because you're special.
You say a lot of ableist and misogynistic things when you try to play defense for a genocidal apartheid regime. You know the IDF isn't going to come to your house and give you a hug right?
Dronies gonna dronie though I guess
Supporting a ceasefire is called being someone who cares more about human lives than nationalism. But great to know you've gotten mad to the point that you're digging through my history.
Also on your use of " they consider you subhuman": you've literally demonstrated what, 5 forms of virulent bigotry over the last 24 hours, 4 directed at me? Stay mad dronie.
In terms of killing children, women AND in the most cowardly manner, there's no good manner but they succeed to go beyond that.